I wasn't even spoiled for Giles's return, I just *knew* that he'd be coming back for the final episode. So while I still get a little racy thrill from hearing that line and seeing him in the doorway, there wasn't as much holy-shit! as there was there's-my-man!, you know?
Lorne: My little prince. Oh…what did they do to you? Angel: Nina…tried to…eat me. Lorne: Oh, you're--medic! You're gonna make it Angel. Just don't stop fighting. Doctor! Is there a Gepetto in the house?
'Smile Time'
Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!
Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.
Amy - Oct 19, 2005 9:42:06 am PDT #2188 of 10459
Because books.
ChiKat - Oct 19, 2005 9:42:36 am PDT #2189 of 10459
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?
Angel: pillow; lawyerfest; Justine in the closet
Buffy: naked Angel; Giles killing Ben/Glory; dead Joyce
Maria - Oct 19, 2005 9:52:04 am PDT #2190 of 10459
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift
Now that we've got the favorites, what was your LEAST favorite moment (HSQ or not) on Buffy and Angel?
Buffy - The cookie dough speech, bar none. That whole scene felt completely out of character for Angel, and I expected that Buffy would have been able to articulate her feelings a bit better at that point.
Angel - The flashbacks in TGiQ. Way to emasculate the Scourge of Europe.
§ ita § - Oct 19, 2005 9:58:50 am PDT #2191 of 10459
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I hated: going to Pylea after the most excellent S2. The idea that Angel and Cordelia were TWU WUV. The champion idea.
The stuff I hated about Buffy was more slow burn and building irritation. The Angel botheration was WHY HAVE YOU FUCKED ME SO??? WHERE IS MY LUBE???
bon bon - Oct 19, 2005 10:06:34 am PDT #2192 of 10459
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
For Buffy, I guess the question excludes answers like "what in general did you hate about the show." So I will say the sex at the dumpster in Doublemeat Palace. I already hated Spike, I hated the fact that they had a sexual relationship, and this bad sex humiliation just makes me cringe.
Amy - Oct 19, 2005 10:09:31 am PDT #2193 of 10459
Because books.
For Buffy, sadly, I'd have to say most of S7.
On Angel, one of them was the Rat Pack reference in The House Always Wins, because continuity? Not so much.
Also truly, truly hated Cordelia's descent into St. Cordy, and the Angel/Cordy love (shudder).
DavidS - Oct 19, 2005 10:13:01 am PDT #2194 of 10459
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Least favorite Buffy: S5 arc getting Riley off the show. Xander's speech being an actual moment of feeling very disconnected and "Are we supposed to think he's right?"
Least favorite Angel: Ascended Cordy looking down from the Heavens in white. Feh. One moment to sum up my entire dissatisfaction with that storyline (though I'm also very sure that story was driven by meta issues).
HSQ Angel: Drusilla vamping Darla. Just the way she glided in, silent, horrible, beautiful.
HSQ Buffy: I was spoiled for so much...Hmmm. I knew the plot moments including Giles comeback, so it was more the lines of dialogue that made me go Whoa. Like when Willow challenged Giles (before going evil) that was a huge turning point for her character.
Lee - Oct 19, 2005 10:26:02 am PDT #2195 of 10459
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
Least favorite for Angel is hands down St Cordy, followed by the champion thing and this:
Angel - The flashbacks in TGiQ. Way to emasculate the Scourge of Europe.
Buffy, I would have to say PodGiles and the potentials and speechifying in S7.
bon bon - Oct 19, 2005 10:32:35 am PDT #2196 of 10459
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
Ascended Cordy looking down from the Heavens in white.
Wasn't she yelling something? It was all very goofy.
Oh, yeah, and I hated the puppet.
§ ita § - Oct 19, 2005 10:34:06 am PDT #2197 of 10459
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I hated the puppet.
Freak. Maybe if he'd stalked Fred or something, you'd have liked him more?