Illyria: Wesley's dead. I'm feeling grief for him. I can't seem to control it. I wish to do more violence. Spike: Well, wishes just happen to be horses today.

'Not Fade Away'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


ChiKat - Aug 30, 2005 6:41:11 am PDT #2017 of 10459
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

The Mayor is alone when Faith enters his office. He has an envelope that seemingly contains the payment, and comments that he had to pay him.

I saw that as the payment the vamp had for the courier was for the box. The payment the Mayor had was for the vamp's service in picking up the box.


Topic!Cindy - Aug 30, 2005 6:48:08 am PDT #2018 of 10459
What is even happening?

I just checked the scr ipt. It seems to support my interpretation.

PAN UP as he crosses the tarmac. The COURIER is an unsavory sort -- a serpent tattoo staining half of his face, pockmarked skin, bad Hawaiian shirt.

SWING AROUND as the Courier stops in front of one of the Mayor's vampire lackeys who waits near a limousine. The VAMP-LACKEY holds a briefcase.

COURIER
He in the car?

VAMP-LACKEY
(opening the car door)
No. I'll take you to him.

The Courier kicks the car door closed.

COURIER
The Mayor was supposed to be
here in person. With the money.

VAMP-LACKEY
(showing him the briefcase)
Got it right here.

COURIER
Uh huh. Well, the price just went
up. I don't like surprises.

(yada yada Faith kills him) ...

END OF ACT ONE
Act Two
EXT. CITY HALL - NIGHT

The street's damp and empty. The quiet suddenly broken by a car turning onto it. Stepping out from the shadows, across the street, is

BUFFY, who watches as the limousine pulls up in front of city hall and comes to a stop.

BUFFY'S P.O.V. - Faith gets out of the car, carrying the ornate box. She tucks it under her arm, takes a quick look around, then climbs the steps and enters the building. The limo then pulls into an adjoining alley-way.

ON BUFFY, as she quickly checks the coast and starts off across the street.

INT. MAYOR'S OFFICE - DAY

Faith enters the Mayor's office, box in hand. Gleeful, the Mayor jumps from his seat and takes it from her.

MAYOR
Hey ho! There it is.

The Mayor places the box on his desk, turns as he withdraws an envelope from his jacket pocket.

MAYOR (cont'd)
What happened to the courier?
I'm supposed to pay him.

Faith slips the envelope full of money back into the Mayor's jacket.

FAITH
I made him an offer he couldn't survive.

A beat as the Mayor gets her meaning. Then he grins.


Lee - Aug 30, 2005 7:03:13 am PDT #2019 of 10459
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I still don''t see how that is a continuity error, since even reading, I take this scene the way ChiKat did.


Narrator - Aug 30, 2005 7:14:09 am PDT #2020 of 10459
The evil is this way?

When I first went to the Bronze (and my first lurk was at the linear side), I was all set to post as "Closet Buffyholic" and when it was taken, I was so sad.

That is my all time favorite "I wish I had been there sooner and grabbed that posting name" name. That a lawgeeker got it is some consolation.

my Bronze handle was Xanderella.

I loved that name, too.


ChiKat - Aug 30, 2005 7:14:17 am PDT #2021 of 10459
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

On this line of the Mayor's:

What happened to the courier? I'm supposed to pay him.

I read that as Vamp-Lackey=courier.


bon bon - Aug 30, 2005 7:29:39 am PDT #2022 of 10459
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I read that as Vamp-Lackey=courier.

The problem with that reading is that the script distinguishes between the lackey and the courier, specifically, and that's who the Mayor refers to, specifically. If the mayor was not referring to the courier, the script would have said, "Fred, the Vampire-Lackey" and the Mayor would have said, "hey, where's Fred?"

One could wank it by saying that the lackey's briefcase was empty. But I think Cindy's right.


Vortex - Aug 30, 2005 7:32:47 am PDT #2023 of 10459
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I read that as Vamp-Lackey=courier.

no, I think that Vamp Lackey was the one with the briefcase, and courier had the box


Topic!Cindy - Aug 30, 2005 7:36:03 am PDT #2024 of 10459
What is even happening?

Right. That the Mayor could have been referring to the Lackey-vamp as "the courier" can't make any sense given the answer Faith gives to the Mayor, in response.

MAYOR: What happened to the courier? I'm supposed to pay him.
FAITH: I made him an offer he couldn't survive.

Faith didn't kill the Lackey Vamp. Buffy did, and Faith doesn't know about that, in fact, Buffy hasn't yet killed him when Faith brings the Mayor the Box of Gavrok.


Vortex - Aug 30, 2005 1:39:50 pm PDT #2025 of 10459
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

right. the vamp lackey enticed the courier into the limo, jso that the courier could be killed by Faith. Faith then took the box in to the Mayor, who expected the courier, but realized that Faith had killed the courier/saved him a lot of money.


Sean K - Aug 30, 2005 1:54:59 pm PDT #2026 of 10459
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

From earlier:

Ouch! This is from way back in March, but I just ran across a TV Guide quote about a former Angel star at TwoP:

HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?: Elisabeth Rohm has gotten work again. As an actress.

On the upside, Briar and Graves did not get picked up. I got to see some dailies of it, and MAN did it suck. And if you think Rohm is a crappy actress now, you should see her in full takes, before an editor has had a chance to take to worst edges off. She really is just a terrible actress.