In theory I'd find Spike's rape attempt much more disturbing than Angel's murder attempts, because... well, oddly enough, Angel still recognized Buffy as a person. He mocked her, he hated her, he wanted to hurt her and kill her. But he wasn't deluded about who she was. Spike wanted to force Buffy to love him -- emotionally, not just physically. In that moment, he didn't know he was doing anything wrong. He thought he could make her love him, and then it would all be fine. That kind of dismissal of someone as separate from you is more frightening to me.

In reality, I thought it was dopey, but that had more to do with the previous two seasons than that one scene.

...Now that I think about it, that difference between Spike and Angel makes sense. Angel, even without a soul, did have a certain kind of empathy. He used it to figure out the best way to torture someone, but that still requires seeing the world from someone else's point of view. I don't think Spike had that same kind of insight; he assumed everyone related to the world the way he did.

The other day, I caught 2 minutes of SR, and I noticed something interesting. Willow comes into the bathroom and takes in Buffy's bruise and Xander's bloody face, and does not immediately assume the two of them had an altercation. There's nobody else in the house so it would not have been that far-fetched. But she knows them both too well.

Thanks, Strega, I think you just connected a few more neurons in my brain. Made new wrinkles. It's an improvement, in any case..

But she knows them both too well.

Well, and their lifestyle.

Surely, both Vortex and Cass have, in making their decisions; prioritizing their tasks; and pursuing their goals, shown the sort of incisive, and innately wise decision making, you expect them to display and put to good use, in your respective places of employ. Obviously, they will be recording this time on their time sheets as "Professional Development". Thank you for your attention to this matter.

I am enjoying reading the takes on S7 / Spike / SR today. I caught it on repeat the other day and have to admit that when I was watching, I just ff'd through the AR. I didn't lalalaa past it at all. I already knew what it was and didn't want to go there again.

I'm home from work today, and CwDP was just on. Damn, that was a good episode. I wish all of S7 could have been like that. I was unspoiled for S7, and I remember how shocked I was by Jonathan getting killed at the end.

And now I'm watching Queer Eye, and their victim is a nudist. Who is, in fact, totally nude when they go to his house. Can I just say, ICK.

t edit And now Carson is all naked, too! It's funny, but just a world of ICK.

Ick.

I'm happy that I've given up watching Queer Eye.

Call me if Kyan drops trou.

Oh my god -- the end of the show was nudist!victim throwing a nudist party, and seeing the Fab Five watch the nudist!party was hysterical! They were yelling "No! Don't dance! Why do you have to dance?" And "Oh god -- grandpa's packing heat!" etc.

No naked Kyan, though.

"Oh god -- grandpa's packing heat!"

diet. Pepsi. on. my. monitor.