I'll just jump in my time machine, go back to the twelfth century, and ask the vampires to postpone their ancient prophesy for a few days while you take in dinner and a show.

Giles ,'Selfless'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Jim - Jul 19, 2005 3:57:55 am PDT #1350 of 10458
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

was thinking last night, do you suppose Joss didn't have Buffy kill the Annoying One, because he didn't want that image on screen (superhero kills kid)?

I think it was more to show that Spike, having hopelessly fucked up his attempt on Buffy, is still a badass.


Lyra Jane - Jul 19, 2005 4:31:46 am PDT #1351 of 10458
Up with the sun

Cindy, there was a Buffy journal back in S7. But I would really, really love to read your take on the idea.


Topic!Cindy - Jul 19, 2005 4:37:09 am PDT #1352 of 10458
What is even happening?

Thanks, Lyra. I thought there was a Buffy one too, but it was the FE's that stuck with me. Ugh. That journal style is killing me. It's pretty, but I hate when the text is written right on top of the wall paper. It makes it it too hard to read.


Topic!Cindy - Jul 19, 2005 4:37:38 am PDT #1353 of 10458
What is even happening?

Hey, maybe we Buffistas could do a Buffy journal by episode, as a group project.


Narrator - Jul 19, 2005 4:57:37 am PDT #1354 of 10458
The evil is this way?

I was thinking last night, do you suppose Joss didn't have Buffy kill the Annoying One, because he didn't want that image on screen (superhero kills kid)? That kid needed killing, not just because he was annoying (although mostly, yes, because he was annoying), but also because he was evil and managed to attract all these other vamps to do his bidding, yet his kill is saved for Spike.

If I recall correctly, there was some issue with having a child as the Annointed One. There may have been the problem of having such evil committed by a child. Or it may have been that Joss didn't want to see his heroine beating up on a child. Or it just may have been that the kid was short and it was hard to set up shots that didn't include just the top of his head. I tend to think it was that Joss didn't want Buffy beating up a kid, but that may just be my read.

We skipped over Some Assembly Required.

Heathens! When Buffy & Xander walk in on Giles practicing asking Jenny out -- One of the best library banter scenes ever.


Frankenbuddha - Jul 19, 2005 5:10:02 am PDT #1355 of 10458
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

If I recall correctly, there was some issue with having a child as the Annointed One. There may have been the problem of having such evil committed by a child. Or it may have been that Joss didn't want to see his heroine beating up on a child. Or it just may have been that the kid was short and it was hard to set up shots that didn't include just the top of his head. I tend to think it was that Joss didn't want Buffy beating up a kid, but that may just be my read.

There's also the practical concern of a child vampire on a long-running series and the reality of the on-set of adolesence. Given how much Angel and Spike changed over the years, a kid was going to be a massive continuity issue. Even just a season might be too long.


Volans - Jul 19, 2005 5:17:20 am PDT #1356 of 10458
move out and draw fire

Or it just may have been that the kid was short and it was hard to set up shots that didn't include just the top of his head.

Which is saying a lot, considering the rest of the cast.


Topic!Cindy - Jul 19, 2005 9:12:16 am PDT #1357 of 10458
What is even happening?

There's also the practical concern of a child vampire on a long-running series and the reality of the on-set of adolesence. Given how much Angel and Spike changed over the years, a kid was going to be a massive continuity issue. Even just a season might be too long.

My only question is why Buffy didn't get to do it. I'm in full agreement he needed to die.

Heathens! When Buffy & Xander walk in on Giles practicing asking Jenny out -- One of the best library banter scenes ever.
See, this is what I tried to tell Scott, not that scene in particular, but about the early seasons in general. A lot of my favorite moments of the series (I'd forgotten that one was attached to SAR) happen in episodes that didn't thrill me plotwise.

*bows head in shame*


Connie Neil - Jul 19, 2005 9:17:42 am PDT #1358 of 10458
brillig

I miss the library. Actually, once they all graduated it didn't feel quite right, because it lost a lot of the "I've known these people since kindergarten and they don't know about my secret life." OK, that only applies to Willow adn Xander, but I liked it. Plus the whole "the school librarian can kick your ass but he chooses to not let you know that" thing.


Narrator - Jul 19, 2005 11:17:45 am PDT #1359 of 10458
The evil is this way?

My only question is why Buffy didn't get to do it.

I tend to think it was because he didn't like the visual of having his heroine kill a kid. Also, it was damn funny to see Spike do it.