Mal: Does.. um.. does this seem kind of tight? Kaylee: Shows off your backside.

'Shindig'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Kathy A - Jun 13, 2005 4:48:15 pm PDT #1068 of 10458
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I thought that TWoP's review of it was hilarious--she was going to give it a D+ (IIRC), but as soon as Bob Newhart started to KICK ASS, she gave it an A.

I liked it for the sheer goofiness, as well as the way that they made being A Librarian (in caps, of course) sound like the most prestigious job in the world. Wyle was very charming in his Indiana-Jones-lite mode.


Connie Neil - Jun 13, 2005 6:13:20 pm PDT #1069 of 10458
brillig

The villainess who had the hots for our Librarian Hero was funny, too. It's so nice to see more entrants in the First Strike Librarian ranks.


Topic!Cindy - Jun 17, 2005 4:42:54 am PDT #1070 of 10458
What is even happening?

Scott and I watched the half-hour unaired BtVS pilot last night, thanks to Hec, who lent me the tape. Years ago, I read jengod's recap (full spoilers: [link] I knew it was somewhat similar to WTtH, but had some differences, including the Wrong Willow.

What a kick--on so many levels--to see this, particularly after the series has completed its run. jengod couldn't have been more right about the WRONGness of Riff Regan, as Willow. Dear me, I hope she was just a place holder from the get-go, because words cannot express how wrong she was, although truth be told, there was a moment--a line, I think somewhere toward the end, where I realized I could totally see Riff-Wrong-Willow flaying someone. Maybe everyone.

I've got to re-read jen's recap, and see if she mentions whether or not Regan was actually cast and let-go, or just hired for the test pilot. Because, in case I didn't mention it, and in case everyone who's ever seen this hadn't thought of it already, Regan could not be more wrong in this role. She is expressionless. Her delivery is so flat I need a new word for flat, and she's not funny. And honestly, it can't all be her fault, because I think the role in WTTH, as played by Hannigan, was better written, as well.

In fact, that's something that went through my head the entire time I watched this: I don't know how Joss got the series on the air, based on this test pilot. I'm sure glad whomever saw whatever they saw in it. I also thought that if BtVS was like this in this phase of production, the crap shows that are on TV, must be unbelievably crappy.

NB, ASH, CC, and SMG are all acquit themeselves of their lines well enough, that every once in a while, I pretend I'm watching another Wishverse or SuperStar-type episode, where nobody realizes they've done almost all of this before, and that some evil demon has taken Willow, and replaced her with someone who can only fool them into thinking she's Willow by employing the darkest of magicks.

We see Harmony in the test pilot. I believe in the real Buffyverse, she doesn't appear as a Cordette until the second hour--The Harvest. We also see Jonathan, which was a nice treat. He was wearing glasses. Buffy gets in line behind him, to get into the Bronze.

The FX are pretty good (okay, mostly funny, but...) considering that I think the budget for a test pilot is approximately a grilled cheese sandwich and cup of tomato soup. There are no sound effects when a character vamps. But there are some physical stunts, and to approximate the dusting of a vampire, the actor lies down. The camera brings his chest wound into focus, and then we see what looks like it might be a sand sculpture. I know *nothing* about filming and recording, other than that cameras, lights, and film (or tape) are used. But I think they must have spliced in frames of the sand sculpture in various states of getting wrecked. It's pretty funny. Mostly, the vamps die off screen. But in the early days of broadcast BtVS, Bronzers knew how much it cost per dusting, and used to amuse themselves by tallying up the poof budget per episode. Joss had to be scarce with the poof FX in those days, because they cost too much money.

What a treat to finally see this. Just so great (okay, mostly because it's so bad, but still...)


Polter-Cow - Jun 17, 2005 5:41:13 am PDT #1071 of 10458
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

In fact, that's something that went through my head the entire time I watched this: I don't know how Joss got the series on the air, based on this test pilot. I'm sure glad whomever saw whatever they saw in it. I also thought that if BtVS was like this in this phase of production, the crap shows that are on TV, must be unbelievably crappy.

Yes, exactly what I thought.


Gandalfe - Jun 17, 2005 5:47:37 am PDT #1072 of 10458
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

Any idea where I could get ahold of this marvel of marvels?


Topic!Cindy - Jun 17, 2005 6:49:42 am PDT #1073 of 10458
What is even happening?

I was loaned a copy, Gandalfe. If I can get someone to make me a copy of it (it already looks like a 2nd or 3rd generation copy, honestly), I will see if I can get two made, and send you one.


juliana - Jun 17, 2005 6:54:59 am PDT #1074 of 10458
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

head hung in deep, deep shame

I suck. I really, truly do. I'm the one who has held up jengod's tape all this time. In my very poor defense, I received it right before I moved out of Z's apartment in 2003, and it got packed and never unpacked. Well, it got unpacked last night as I was searching for old software. I'm so sorry.

So, I've got the tape, and am more than willing to send it on to whomever, along with cookies for having to wait so long.

Side note - never lend me anything. Please just don't. I suck.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 17, 2005 6:56:11 am PDT #1075 of 10458
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I've forgotten what else was on the tape — wasn't it a compilation of various Buffy-themed goodies?


Dana - Jun 17, 2005 6:59:08 am PDT #1076 of 10458
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

There were a lot of dailies.


juliana - Jun 17, 2005 6:59:16 am PDT #1077 of 10458
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

I've forgotten what else was on the tape — wasn't it a compilation of various Buffy-themed goodies?

Outtakes, mostly. But yeah, it's a good tape.