Easy Bake. Flop-a-palooza. Woosh. Pop. I don't skulk.

Angel ,'Shells'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Jessica - Sep 28, 2020 9:54:03 am PDT #10331 of 10457
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

I don't know who needs to hear this but AtS S4 does not hold up. I was one of that season's most ardent defenders at the time, but I'm ready to admit I was very young and stupid and this is not good television.

(Still love Connor who is forever my woobie.)

(But holy fuck the Cordy/Connor seduction scene is creepy and bad and wrong and made infinitely worse by the random but frequent stating of Connor's age as definitely 18 and not "we have no idea because he grew up overnight in a hell dimension.")

(I was pissed off even when this first aired at how badly Cordy was written all season but it's so much worse than I even remember.)


Laura - Sep 28, 2020 9:57:11 am PDT #10332 of 10457
Our wings are not tired.

I don't think I could watch that season of Cordelia again. The memory is painful.


-t - Sep 28, 2020 10:05:08 am PDT #10333 of 10457
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

It's a hard truth to hear but I believe you


Zenkitty - Sep 28, 2020 10:38:39 am PDT #10334 of 10457
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

It was such a disappointment. I hated everything about Cordy/Connor and how Cordelia was written that season. I just had to delete the whole thing from my headcanon, there was no fixing it.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 28, 2020 11:31:14 am PDT #10335 of 10457
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

It gave her something to do besides moon over Angel while wearing diaphanous gowns, so I still think it was a big improvement over the back half of Season 3. I generally don't feel compelled to rewatch past 3.01, though.


Topic!Cindy - Sep 28, 2020 4:54:06 pm PDT #10336 of 10457
What is even happening?

I just remember being so grateful they gave CC's farewell episode, "You're Welcome," to Fury. It made me angry that we got her back just to lose her, but I was grateful that at least we got her back, and that our last moments with Cordelia wasn't that other stuff.


DavidS - Sep 28, 2020 5:57:33 pm PDT #10337 of 10457
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I just remember being so grateful they gave CC's farewell episode, "You're Welcome," to Fury.

It didn't redeem their wrong turns but that was a sweet valentine to CC and Cordy.


Jessica - Oct 13, 2020 6:01:33 am PDT #10338 of 10457
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

And that's a wrap on BtVS rewatch with teenager! Here's to doing it again in 4-5 years when I have another one.


Laura - Oct 13, 2020 6:03:08 am PDT #10339 of 10457
Our wings are not tired.

Mine didn't watch it with me, other than Pangs which they endured yearly. I'll have to suggest it to them again. I guess it is a Mom thing to them.


quester - Nov 01, 2020 10:33:06 am PST #10340 of 10457
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

I've been doing a sporadic rewatch of Angel. Last one I watched was Waiting in the Wings. Eww. but the episode before it, the name of which I don;t remember, featured Jeffrey Dean Morgan as the guest star who conned Angel into killing vampires so he could get his friend's watch back.