Get up...get up, you stupid piece of... What did you do that for? What's wrong with you? Didn't you hear a word he said? All of you! You think there's someone just going to drop money on you?! Money they could use?! Well, there ain't people like that. There's just people like me.

Jayne ,'Jaynestown'


Boxed Set, Vol. II: "It's a Cookbook...A Cookbook!!"  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


sumi - Aug 07, 2006 10:46:24 am PDT #9953 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

ChUD interviews EJO There is one VERY spoiler question and answer in the interview, so I removed it and reposted below:

CHUD:

Q: Talking to the cast of Splinter, one thing that keeps coming up is that while the film is a thriller and it needs to be exciting, the movie has reality to it. It seems to be the same thing with Battlestar – sure it’s sci fi, but it’s addressing political issues. How important is that to you in your work?

Olmos: It makes all the difference in the world when you have this passion for what you’re doing. You’ve got to have a strong sense of understanding of that. It affects everything. Intent equals content – the intention with which you’re doing something comes out in the content. Everytime. If your intention is to make money, you see it like that in the art. If your intention is to become rich and famous you can see the intention in the choices the person is making and where they’re going. There’s no hiding a commercial artist when you see one. I’ve never been able to do that – and I’ve made commercial pieces of work. They all had the sense of understanding humanity in a way that allowed you to go to the movie and come out understanding a little bit about yourself. That’s what it’s all about.

Q: Do you think the reality is important to the audience as well?

Olmos: Did you see American Me? That’s an ugly movie; nobody should be exposed to that. What the hell do you want to go for two hours and watch that life? Better you should go to The Godfather – at least that’s romantic and you come out humming the theme song.

Q: Life is ugly sometimes.

Olmos: It is. And that’s exactly what [Splinter] is.

Spoilery question and answer removed.

Q: Are you surprised that the show can be that dark and that brutal and yet be so popular?

Olmos: Yeah! Yeah! I’m totally blown away. We won the Peabody, man! Give me a fucking break. How in the world does that add up? Where does that line cross? How does that happen? I get chills. I’ve been doing this for 41 years, man, and Battlestar Galactica wins the Peabody? I’m the fucking guy that did Stand and Deliver! I’m the guy that did The Ballad of Gregorio Cortez. I have used the television medium to the best of my abilities and done stuff that will be lasting forever in the annals of the artform – and Battlestar Galactica gets the Peabody.

Q: How long do you see the show going on for?

Olmos: We’ve been talking about it. It’s hard to write this. These guys are always on the verge of a nervous breakdown because they can’t go in for the flash and the simple, basic sci fi mode. If they do that, they’ll crush everyone.

Q: Everybody expects more.

Olmos: Oh man, they do. And they’re waiting, and they’re anxious. And you know what? I’ll give you my attention, and you are the best show. Now what are you going to do this time? People are dying to turn on the television and see this piece of work. It’s unbelievable. I don’t know what to say about it. I’m blown away.

Q: Adama has to make tough decisions, has to do things that cross the line or could be considered troubling – how important is it that you agree with him, or understand where he’s coming from?

Olmos: As a human being? Me, as an actor? I never get into that kind of psychology. When you’re inside that world, everything is the end of all humankind. Every single day, every single time. We did last week – it was the darkest week I have ever spent in film, ever, in which I am literally going to annihilate, push all the nuclear weapons I have on the ship to annihilate everything. The Cylons, us, everything. It’s all over guys! I have my finger on the button, man! And it’s so brutal. It’s just so brutal what happens, man.

Q: How do you decompress from that?

Olmos: It’s hard. You come home from work worn out. The whole day you spent in this vicious, vicious world that’s self-destructive. I’m in constant conflict with everybody – my son, Tigh, the relationship between me and everybody. It’s tremendously (continued...)


sumi - Aug 07, 2006 10:46:36 am PDT #9954 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

( continues...) difficult. You just feel for everybody.

Q: That’s part of the joy of the show.

Olmos: It is. Everybody loves it. They love that tension, they love to go, ‘What’s he going to do now?’ It’s amazing. I am so lucky – I am a true believer in the program. I believe this is one of the greatest programs I have ever been involved with in my life and that I have ever seen on television.


sumi - Aug 07, 2006 10:50:15 am PDT #9955 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

SG1 and SGA ALWAYS goe on an extended break from Sept - January. So, this isn't new.


§ ita § - Aug 07, 2006 10:58:05 am PDT #9956 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Did Billie do accents in either of her appearances, or did she sound like her Dr. Who self?


sumi - Aug 07, 2006 10:59:35 am PDT #9957 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

In the one I saw - she sounded like herself. . . but I think that they were supposed to be someplace that isn't London.

Maybe someplace close enough to London but not!London that the accent wasn't a worry?

Nobody seemed to be other then generic British except for Don (John) who was Scottish and that guy who was in Murder Prevention Unit and is Irish.


Strega - Aug 07, 2006 10:59:44 am PDT #9958 of 10001

I love Olmos so much.


Kathy A - Aug 07, 2006 11:15:54 am PDT #9959 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

They were (mostly) playing on-air TV personalities, so having your generic BBC accent wasn't too far off the mark.

As for EJO, I was just rewatching my tape of (most of) the first half of BSG S2 last night, and was loving his performance so much. He's such a good actor, and can bring on the Adama Glare of Death when called for (the last ep I watched was "Pegasus", when it was in full force!).


Kate P. - Aug 07, 2006 11:46:38 am PDT #9960 of 10001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

SG1 and SGA ALWAYS goe on an extended break from Sept - January. So, this isn't new.

OK, good to know. Thanks!


Morgana - Aug 07, 2006 7:17:25 pm PDT #9961 of 10001
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Not to go from the sublime (BSG) to the not-so-sublime, but is anyone else out there watching Blade on Spike TV? I've been enjoying it more than I thought I would. I won't claim Emmy (or Peabody)-caliber acting, but it's turned out to be a lot better than expected. I've been impressed that the episodes are forming one continuous, layered story rather than consisting of individual standalone eps. Currently the season is about 7 or so episodes in, and has introduced Blade's vendetta against a wide range of vampire "houses," his ally, a newly made vampire within one of the houses, and a lot of political intrigue amongst the houses themselves. (One of the house heads is a young girl, who reminds me of the girl in the white room at Wolfram and Hart.) There's an FBI agent tracking some of the killings, who seems to be inching closer to the realization of that they might have been caused by ... some sort of monster. All in all, it's been a satisfying way to fill an hour. The commercials are a trial (again, Spike TV... thank God for fast forward on my VCR).

I did have a question -- when vampires are killed, they turn to dust. There are more pyrotechnics than when Buffy dusts them, but still, dust is the end result. Is this part of vampire canon? I thought Joss had Buffy's vamps turn to dust so that the screen wouldn't be littered with bodies and so she wouldn't look like a budding serial killer herself.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 07, 2006 7:21:48 pm PDT #9962 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

The first Blade movie came out in 1998 with essentially the same immolation/death effect that the series uses. Buffy first aired in May 1997—I'm not sure if it had aired before the decision to have dying vampires go poof! was made for the movie.