You all gonna be here when I wake up?

Mal ,'Out Of Gas'


Boxed Set, Vol. II: "It's a Cookbook...A Cookbook!!"  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Jon B. - Aug 02, 2006 5:27:37 am PDT #9724 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

He's also the guy who played Lily's first husband on The 4400.

That's where I recognized him from!

I liked the concept of the episode and the character development was nice, but the science really bugged me. I know -- handwavehandwavehandwave -- but my wrist was getting sore by the end. I suppose I would have liked it more if they hadn't made it clear that Jason had used the device to "steal" Kim from Henry. If the device erased short term memory, how did it remove the romantic feelings that Henry and Kim clearly had for each other? What -- Jason happened to walk in right after they had their first kiss and then did something to sweep Kim off her feet?

Other things I liked:

  • Jack's non-tech tech-speak.
  • The large poster of the director's face at the school theater.


Jessica - Aug 02, 2006 5:31:26 am PDT #9725 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Yeah, he was pretty lucky that nobody in his path ever had an idea that they waited half an hour to act on. The science would have worked much better if they'd explained it less, or at least less specifically -- once you start referencing things your audience has even vaguely heard of, the logic holes appear big and bright as day.


Theodosia - Aug 02, 2006 5:31:49 am PDT #9726 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

The episode worked for me, too, especially because we got a ton of Joe Morton's Henry. Colin F was good as ever, and really starting to mesh with the other characters -- we got background on Jo, Annoying Kid got her own secondary plot that actually thematically tied into the A plot. And I hope Tamlyn Tomita gets to guest-star on occasion -- at least it's nice to think that eccentric black scientist-of-all-trades gets to have an off-screen romance.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 02, 2006 5:37:25 am PDT #9727 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I hope they let Jack and Jo bond a little more sans any romance. I'd love to see them develop the kind of rapport that Mal and Zoe had.

I really hope something happens to make me care about the new director and the DOD agent - right now they are mostly taking up space. I'd even rather have more of the daughter than more of them the way things are right now.

And I hope Tamlyn Tomita gets to guest-star on occasion

Me too.


Jon B. - Aug 02, 2006 5:39:15 am PDT #9728 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

The science would have worked much better if they'd explained it less, or at least less specifically

Yes! I think that's it.

I forgot to mention that the way Jason got off at the end also bugged. "We'll give you your check this time, but don't expect any more government work"? You'd think they'd at least make the check out to Kim, fer chrissakes.


sumi - Aug 02, 2006 5:42:58 am PDT #9729 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

I hope they let Jack and Jo bond a little more sans any romance. I'd love to see them develop the kind of rapport that Mal and Zoe had.

Yes!!


Vortex - Aug 02, 2006 5:46:59 am PDT #9730 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I really liked Tamlyn Tomita. I thought she was great. I hope we see more of her.

As for the "device", each person who used it held it up and away from their faces, so maybe that's how they didn't get caught in it.


Vortex - Aug 02, 2006 6:08:47 am PDT #9731 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Okay, I'm listening to Colin's podcast, and he's aDORKable!!!


Strega - Aug 02, 2006 6:48:00 am PDT #9732 of 10001

I may have read too much Spider Robinson.

I swear that more than once it was implied that false memories were being created. There's the how do you kill a romance/start a new one question, and also didn't Henry "remember" that the device he'd invented didn't work?

Their camera solution was cute, if lucky, but it'd have been better if I hadn't spent half an hour yelling that you should WRITE SHIT DOWN before you rush off to confront someone that you suspect of messing with memories. And when you do confront him, don't be all Andy Griffith about it. You grab him and cuff him before he can move, because you already know he's messed with your heads at least once.

And the guy who has been using the memory-wipe for however many years finds himself doing something odd and can't remember why, and isn't at all suspicious? Not to mention the fact that he really must be mentally deficient all he can think to do with the thing is mooch off his brainy wife.

How stupid is Henry if he was trying to create a memory-wipe without realizing what an incredibly devastating weapon it would be? How stupid is he to have built the thing and not put this together 20 years ago? And most of all how stupid "So Jack shot Henry, and a room full of witnesses can't remember anything that led up to it. We live in a town that is home to all kinds of dangerous experimentation, where bizarre things happen regularly. The only reasonable conclusion I can draw is that Jack's a parnaoid loon. Lock him up!" There was much eyerolling.

I hated the kid-director. So far, they've basically shown geniuses as being, y'know,ordinary people, but smarter. That's one of the appealing things about the show. Having a genius kid portrayed as a creepy, faux-sophisticated mini-adult pissed me off. It's so lazy.

Any one of those things, by itself, not a big deal. In combination, it got wearing. I did really like that Kim figured it out first, and her whole vengeance thing. And a friend and I have been giggling about "invisibling" since last week's previews.


Vortex - Aug 02, 2006 6:50:50 am PDT #9733 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Henry strikes me as the kind of guy who invents stuff because he can not because he should. He'll have a theory, see if he can prove it, and not think about the consequences. That's why he lives in Eureka.