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Kathy A - Mar 19, 2006 8:57:34 am PST #7818 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Will I be looking for previous Who's soon? If so, do I start at the beginning and watch em all? Start with the first Doctor? Are there some Doctors I should skip?

Unless PBS goes back to viewing Classic Who, I doubt that those eps will be widely available outside of DVD/video. If you do decide to do some renting, the videos haven't been released in order--only select eps are available for each Doctor.

As for starting with the first one, those are very limited, due to the BBC's old policy of getting rid of entire episodes to make room in the storage facility back in the 1960s/70s. Even though I consider myself a big Who fan, I've never seen any William Hartnell (#1) or Patrick Troughton (#2), outside of the reunion eps.

Jon Pertwee (#3) is fun, but his story thread is unusual in that the majority of his eps he's tied to Earth and working with UNIT (a paramilitary group based in England), instead of gallivanting around the universe. Tom Baker (#4) is considered the uber-Doctor, because of his length of tenure (7 years is the longest in the role so far) and because he was the Doctor most Americans knew first since his eps were the first to be picked up by PBS. Peter Davison (#5) is probably the one best known for his non-Doctor roles, especially in All Creatures Great and Small. Colin Baker (#6) is the one I found the most annoying, but others I'm sure disagree with me. Sylvester McCoy (#7) was the last in the Classic Who line, and his eps did more experimenting with the Doctor's backstory and made him more of a manipulator in the universe. Whether or not the new series is going to continue this plotline, I don't know.

As for which ones to watch, Doctor Who is more like CSI or L&O in that it doesn't really matter if you watch eps in order or not. Watch them in order, and you'll get a bit more character development, and in the rare season-long arcs (namely, the Key to Time season and the Trial of a TIme Lord), those are available in boxed sets for rental.


Betsy HP - Mar 19, 2006 9:11:25 am PST #7819 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Romana was very useful indeed. But then she was a Time Lord. (Not Time Lady; don't ask me why.)

I'm really really loving the current Who: bitter and sweet and funny and heartbreaking. And I loved Rose's epiphany so much ("I don't have any A levels and I don't have any future ... but I do have gymnastics, and I won a bronze!") Rose is so great a character because she's working-class in a dead-end job, and yet she's bright and perceptive and you can see what a waste society at large is making of her talents. I also love that the new Whoverse is multicultural.


Betsy HP - Mar 19, 2006 9:12:28 am PST #7820 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

I just Netflixed the Jon Pertwee "Carnival of the Animals", and it was wonderful as a standalone. We have all of the Key to Time eps because the whole family is sick; I find Tom Baker palls pretty quickly. He's a bit self-consciously quirky.


Theodosia - Mar 19, 2006 9:17:03 am PST #7821 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

You know, if you'd told me just two years ago that I'd be watching and enjoying both Battlestar Galactica and Dr. Who, I'd have looked at you very funnily indeed!


Laura - Mar 19, 2006 9:42:22 am PST #7822 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

Thanks for the recap Kathy. I'm um acquiring Doctor Who One seasons 1-4 now to take a look for historical purposes.


Kathy A - Mar 19, 2006 9:49:50 am PST #7823 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I also love that the new Whoverse is multicultural.

ITA. I also liked Mickey's reaction to the conspiracy theorist's nice middle-class neighborhood, and the looks that he as a young black man was getting from the residents--it explained to me why he didn't start yelling for help when he got eaten by the garbage bin.


WindSparrow - Mar 19, 2006 10:11:24 am PST #7824 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Five-minute Doctor Who. [link]


Consuela - Mar 19, 2006 11:04:50 am PST #7825 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Here's Luck has a new DueSouth vid out. It's really lovely. Get it here: [link]


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 19, 2006 11:12:56 am PST #7826 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Rose is the first human female companion that I have seen who did not scream more than I would.

I'm pretty certain I'd scream more than Leela did. Didn't it take some alien beastie biting her in the head to finally make her cry out?


Ailleann - Mar 19, 2006 1:53:16 pm PST #7827 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

It's so nice to see a person-sized woman on tv, who isn't a joke.

Wrody McWrodcakes.