Wesley: We were fighting on opposite sides, but it was the same war. Fred: but you hated her…didn't you? Wesley: It's not always about holding hands.

'Shells'


Boxed Set, Vol. II: "It's a Cookbook...A Cookbook!!"  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Tom Scola - Mar 19, 2006 7:26:04 am PST #7806 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

The purpose of the companions is to say, "Doctor, what is it?" over and over again. The companions tend to have shorter runs than the Doctor (with a couple of exceptions) because the actors tend to get sick of saying their line.


§ ita § - Mar 19, 2006 7:30:55 am PST #7807 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The companions are, to some degree, our PoV characters. Because otherwise the Doctor'd never have to explain his myriad mysteries.

Is "expected to be nubile" in the job description?

Have a look at the Companion companion.


askye - Mar 19, 2006 7:31:12 am PST #7808 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

The first time we meet the Doctor he's living on Earth with is granddaughter, one of her teachers (or maybe two) end up traveling with them. They end up with him different ways, going into the call box for help and seeing it's different and then things happening, or are from another planet and get caught up with the Doctor's adventures and stay.


Mikey - Mar 19, 2006 7:46:05 am PST #7809 of 10001
All this time, I thought Hunter was a bitch. Turns out she was just hungry.

So why does he need Companions if all they do is scream and look appealling?
That's going to be answered in the current run, in "show, don't tell" fashion. Rose was invited, Mickey wasn't. You'll see why she was.
The purpose of the companions is to say, "Doctor, what is it?" over and over again.
Not under Russell T. Davies. Rose can handle herself. She has already. And Billie Piper is wonderful in "Father's Day," a couple months down the line.

Some of us have been speculating about the current run. It's been ages since Doctor Who has been on TV on a weekly basis. We think RTD wanted to jump straight in with the current Doctor without complicating matters with a regeneration story--there's a couple generations haven't seen Doctor Who and only know the pop culture references. Same reason why past Doctors weren't mentioned by the conspiracy theorist. There will be regeneration, and more--even a Dalek or many--just not initially. I'm okay with it.


§ ita § - Mar 19, 2006 7:48:40 am PST #7810 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Not all companions were screamers or queriers. Rose isn't the first one to be useful.


Zenkitty - Mar 19, 2006 7:51:30 am PST #7811 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

All very interesting. I will make a point of watching the first two in reruns tonight.


Laura - Mar 19, 2006 7:52:51 am PST #7812 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

So I watched Who for the first time evah. What fun. I have to watch again because I was working on my laptop at the time so I heard it more than saw it, which isn't right.

Will I be looking for previous Who's soon? If so, do I start at the beginning and watch em all? Start with the first Doctor? Are there some Doctors I should skip?

For now I am just delighted to have it nice and easy on Friday night.

Also, it was odd for me that Rose [link] kept reminding me of a character from General Hospital (don't know if she still is on the show) named Felicia [link] She's much younger than Kristina Wagner would be now, but she looked and behaved like a young Felicia. (I should watch soaps again. So goofy and they relax my brain.)


Tom Scola - Mar 19, 2006 7:54:36 am PST #7813 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

The main purposes for the companions are to be an audience proxy, and to have someone for the Doctor to deliver his expository lines to. Given those parameters, a companion can be quite useful or useless, depending on the quality of the writing and the acting. The fact that Rose fulfills this role while being a such a good character is a testament to RTD.


P.M. Marc - Mar 19, 2006 8:10:06 am PST #7814 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Not all companions were screamers or queriers. Rose isn't the first one to be useful.

I seem to recall Ace being pretty useful, but that could be my Ace crush talking.


Mikey - Mar 19, 2006 8:15:51 am PST #7815 of 10001
All this time, I thought Hunter was a bitch. Turns out she was just hungry.

ita - quite right.

Laura - I spent a week timeshifting and watching the first week of Passions being re-run on Scifi. Had to make myself stop while I still could!

Companion = device. Agreed. Leela. Mmmmm.