Saffron: You won't tell anyone about me breaking down? Mal: I won't. Saffron: Then I won't tell anyone how easily I got your gun out of your holster. Mal: I'll take that as a kindness.

'Trash'


Boxed Set, Vol. II: "It's a Cookbook...A Cookbook!!"  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


tommyrot - Mar 12, 2006 8:01:40 pm PST #7705 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I've been perusing the BSG portion of SciFi.com and ran across a fan interview of David Eick (the other executive producer, besides Moore). I found this very interesting:

Q: With viewer comments readily available, will the fans' feedback from the first episodes of the second season have any impact on the second half of the season?

Eick: Yes and no. This is the broadband age and it's harder and harder to find any time or place where you don't have immediate access to the world's information and opinions — which may not necessarily be a good thing. Having a little time and distance away from something before judging it is often a much closer barometer of the thing's value (or non-value) than knee-jerk reactions, and so I tend to take most of what I hear and read with a grain of salt. If I'm told there is a definite trend — a great number of bulletin boarders loving something or hating something — then I might check in to see what all the fuss is about.

But I'm reminded of the early days of the Internet craze. We were doing Hercules and Xena at Renaissance Pictures, and reading fan opinions on bulletin boards was a big novelty. But then we all freaked out — the fans seemed to love certain things that surprised us, hated things we thought they'd love ... and so we began correcting. Adjusting. Allowing the boards to influence how the shows were written and produced.

About a month later, the fans seemed to be in ecstasy — they loved everything, they felt heard, they felt a part of the process. In the meantime, our ratings were nose-diving — I remember drop-offs in our Nielsen numbers that were unparalleled. To this day, I wonder if those shows might've lasted another season or two had we not overcorrected and in the process marginalized their appeal. We often forget that the vastly larger percentage of "the fans" never bother to offer their opinions on the Internet, and so as showmakers we're wise to be careful how much, or little, we allow ourselves to be influenced by vox populi.


Consuela - Mar 12, 2006 8:08:01 pm PST #7706 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

The Bancroft library at Berkeley allows you to bring a pad of paper and a pencil, and nothing else.


tommyrot - Mar 12, 2006 8:19:41 pm PST #7707 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Moore talks about BSG finale and season 3: [link]

Slightly spoilery, but the spoilery stuff is stuff you could probably guess on your own.


§ ita § - Mar 13, 2006 4:43:53 am PST #7708 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

How BSG killed broadcast TV--it's about the time delay in broadcasting in the US and torrenting.


tommyrot - Mar 13, 2006 4:49:31 am PST #7709 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

How BSG killed broadcast TV-

Huh. So this is a different article than the one with the exact same title that was out (I forget where) six or so months ago....


Consuela - Mar 13, 2006 7:49:03 am PST #7710 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

That article's been out for a while.


§ ita § - Mar 13, 2006 7:51:25 am PST #7711 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That article's been out for a while.

Since May 13, 2005, according to the date on it.


tommyrot - Mar 13, 2006 7:55:29 am PST #7712 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I first thought it was the old article I had read before, but then somehow I got the idea this one had just been published. Apparantly my brain is not working today.


Mikey - Mar 13, 2006 8:45:35 am PST #7713 of 10001
All this time, I thought Hunter was a bitch. Turns out she was just hungry.

My 23 MB rough cut of adding "All along the Watchtower" to the end of the BSG season Finale: [link]

Daniel, the cost of the music rights could've reduced montage to still pix, or worse. And if money were no object: Johnny Cash. When it's the end of the world, and Vogons are not involved, you need the voice of Johnny Cash:

There's a man goin' 'round takin' names.
An' he decides who to free and who to blame.
Everybody won't be treated all the same.
There'll be a golden ladder reaching down.
When the man comes around.


Betsy HP - Mar 13, 2006 8:52:51 am PST #7714 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Hmm. My apocalypse is sung by Leonard Cohen:

and I lift my glass to the Awful Truth
which you can't reveal to the Ears of Youth
except to say it isn't worth a dime
And the whole damn place goes crazy twice
and it's once for the devil and once for Christ
but the Boss don't like these dizzy heights
we're busted in the blinding lights,
busted in the blinding lights
of CLOSING TIME