Moore has more than enough SF chops, though, so if he says something like that, he's at least cognizant of what he's pushing.
Dawn: Are you kidding? Dr. Keiser: I never kid about my amazing surgical skills.
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A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.
Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.
This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.
Theodosia - Apr 01, 2005 4:39:15 am PST #711 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
UTTAD - Apr 01, 2005 4:46:02 am PST #712 of 10001
Strawberry disappointment.
Fair enough.
evil jimi - Apr 01, 2005 4:48:48 am PST #713 of 10001
Lurching from one disaster to the next.
Exactly UTTAD and that reeeeeeeeeeeeally pisses me off.
UTTAD - Apr 01, 2005 4:55:02 am PST #714 of 10001
Strawberry disappointment.
There was an excellent article in SFX Magazine recently highlighting this very fact. It had quotes from film makers, authors and TV show creators, all desperately back peddling away from their own creations which are so sci fi as to be the most sci fi-y thing ever.
One quote was someone saying that their work wasn't sci fi because it was based on what actual scientists think might actually happen in the actual future. Guh.
I'll see if I can look it out and post some of the quotes.
Jessica - Apr 01, 2005 5:24:12 am PST #715 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
People who are in large embarrassed to find themselves liking something sci fi or fantasy, generally come out with stuff like this, saying "Hey I like it because it's more than just sci fi"
Generally speaking, I agree, but I doubt that Wired, of all places, is calling BSG "broad-based" because they're embarrassed to be liking sci-fi.
UTTAD - Apr 01, 2005 5:34:42 am PST #716 of 10001
Strawberry disappointment.
Yuhuh, it was that broad brush o' min causnig problems.
Nutty - Apr 01, 2005 5:42:49 am PST #717 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
I don't have a problem with "is you is or is you not sci-fi", but I do highly doubt that BSG "reinvents the genre". Like, really? A barely-disguised alternate-world treatise on your current social and political world? Wow, what an unknown concept for SF!!
I mean, intellectually, I'm pleased that that kind of SF can exist, but, this kind of thing has been done before.
Jessica - Apr 01, 2005 5:47:10 am PST #718 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
but, this kind of thing has been done before.
Done this well, and on television, I'd say rarely.
I'll agree that "reinvent" is a pretty strong word. (As is "best" -- I'd have to pick Farscape if it came down to a choice.)
DCJensen - Apr 01, 2005 6:06:35 am PST #719 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.
One quote was someone saying that their work wasn't sci fi because it was based on what actual scientists think might actually happen in the actual future. Guh.
They mean it's science based fiction, eh? There ought to be a word or phrase that covers that...
Consuela - Apr 01, 2005 6:09:56 am PST #720 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
This is the whole thing with Margaret Atwood claiming that Oryx and Crake isn't science fiction because, um, she doesn't write science fiction and there aren't any spaceships in it.
Or, really, that the Lee/Kara relationship on BSG is "queer het" (i.e., slash) because Starbuck is too cool/butch for it to be het.
No, seriously.