"I don't quite understand this." - second funniest Moore quote.

"I don't quite understand this." - second funniest Moore quote.

That was terrific. The whole thing was terrific. I completely agree with everything he says, too -- it's a good episode in theory. The ideas are there, but the execution doesn't deliver.

The funniest Moore quote was during the scene when Lee kills the head of the black market. Moore is talking about something other than what's going on in the scene. Then, when everyone's standing around after Lee shot the guy, Moore says, "I don't know why everyone doesn't just beat the crap out of him here." or words to that effect, and then Moore goes back to what he was talking about.

Made me laugh out loud.

That was terrific. The whole thing was terrific. I completely agree with everything he says, too -- it's a good episode in theory. The ideas are there, but the execution doesn't deliver.

Agreed, and I thought it was a good look at how the theory and the execution can just fail to match up. I also enjoyed the point he made at the end that it was the network guys who insisted on that last moment between Lee and Bill Adama: I tend to fall too easily into "creative team good! network suits BAAAAAD!" thinking, when of course there are ideas and input coming in from all sides all the time.

(Plus, I never get tired of phones ringing and dogs barking.)

So, yeah, ep -- meh. Podcast -- thumbs up. I kept thinking (even before Moore said more or less the same thing) that DVD sets where you do four or five commentaries on a whole season, and get to pick the really cool ones, are a luxury compared to what he's doing.

My favorite thing in BvP was when the guy ripped his shirt off before blasting the flamethrower! For no discernable reason!

OMG, was it Lorenzo Lamas??

I'll nto soon forget Scrappy's story of having captioned a grade-Z sci fi thrilla starring same, where he spent his time doing fart-smelling acting, while shooting at grips holding up ping pong balls. (The effects hadn't been finished yet.)

Also reading a really long transcript of his dealing incredibly adeptly and graciously with hardcore and displeased fans (of the original series)

I suppose dealing with Trek fans for all those years probably prepared Moore for the reaction he'd get. I remember Ellis putting highlights on his mailing list. ("What right do you have to destroy something we love?") It's probably the first thing I heard about the show that made me think I might like it.

Then, when everyone's standing around after Lee shot the guy, Moore says, "I don't know why everyone doesn't just beat the crap out of him here." or words to that effect, and then Moore goes back to what he was talking about.

Yes! I was so baffled, like DON'T ANY OF YOU OTHER PEOPLE HAVE GUNS?! SHOOT APOLLO, FOR GODS' SAKE!

Because he took down the top dog, so he is top dog. It's like Adama's plan to take down Cain, or vice versa--except she was more thorough. But it hinges on some sort of pack mentality, and recognising that you're not an alpha, and you've been beaten to the punch.

The Bystander Effect -- standing around with your mouth hanging open, even if you have both means and motivation to intercede -- works just as well on bad guys as on good guys.

Most of the time, anyway. A lot of intro psychology classes use the Bystander Effect to demonstrate a different principle: attention in intense situations. The teacher usually hires an actor to burst into class and do something dramatic/dangerous, like pretend to assault the teacher, and then leave. After the incident ends, the teacher asks, "What was that person wearing??" -- and nobody in the class will have noticed that he had on clown shoes. (Their attention was elsewhere, due to the intensity of the situation.)

This works really well most of the time, because the Bystander Effect is such that the students all sit and watch the dramatic events, rather than intervene. Except for one time a teacher of mine liked to tell about, when he (playing the actor) was tackled in the middle of his outburst by a football player who had been sitting in the front row.

They kind of had to stop the planned lecture about attention, in order to make up a whole different lecture about bystanderism and why nice football players usually don't intervene in situations like that.

I suppose dealing with Trek fans for all those years probably prepared Moore for the reaction he'd get.

Oh yeah. He was one of the writers for that Trek movie where Kirk gets killed.

He received death threats.