Dawn: I feel safe with you. Spike: Take that back!

'First Date'


Boxed Set, Vol. II: "It's a Cookbook...A Cookbook!!"  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Katie M - Jan 16, 2006 9:04:49 am PST #6552 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

She's pre-justifying her reasons for having Adama killed. It's just that it cuts both ways, because Dramatic Irony Is Fun!

Okay, yes, but the part where she made Kara promise not to flinch? Cain wasn't just making pronouncements about how things should be there, or setting groundwork for Kara accepting that Cain had to make the hard choice to kill Daddy Adama, she was extracting a promise from Kara for no particular reason that I could see other than Dramatic Irony Is Fun.

ETA:

Oh, and I don't think Cain could have done anything

She could've tried, though. We're talking about a woman who was still trying to win the war with the Cylons on a grand scale; she couldn't grab for the gun? Try to convince Gina she was more useful alive than dead? Try to run away? Something, anyway. "Go down fighting" was such a big part of her character up to that point that it felt really telling to me that she didn't, at the end.


Consuela - Jan 16, 2006 9:13:44 am PST #6553 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Spoilers for SG-1 Season 10 premiere are trickling out.

t sighs wearily


Nutty - Jan 16, 2006 9:20:25 am PST #6554 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

(I don't know what to make of Cain, which I take as a sign that the writers didn't know either. So I'm a neutral vote on that discussion.)

Topic for eggheaded discussion: the not-platinum Six is or is not a parallel to the plot in I Spit on Your Grave.

The basic scenario is horrifying rapes, followed by un-wishy-washy, systematic revenge. But the movie protagonist killed all of her attackers, starting with the dumbass followers and working her way up to the leader, whereas to date the TV version went straight for the leader (and that a woman).

(Wouldn't I laff and laff if, one by one, Pegasus soldiers showed up dead as Six continued to pursue her revenge. Not that (a) television can really show bathtub castration or (b) the writers are necessarily going to continue with this character at all. But, Joe Bob Briggs and I would find it funny.)

The movie's politics are messy and raw, empowering women to take up the tools of violence only after a thorough victimhood. The TV version has the complicating "I was a robot for the toaster empire" factor, but how much does it hew to its horror-exploitation movie forbear? How is it different?

Discuss.


Betsy HP - Jan 16, 2006 9:27:52 am PST #6555 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

sighs with Consuela in utter, utter disgust.


Betsy HP - Jan 16, 2006 9:28:52 am PST #6556 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

You know, Suela, now that I think of it, [spoiler for S9/S10] there is SO DAMNED MUCH to be said for oversized purses and neck-up shots.


§ ita § - Jan 16, 2006 9:32:11 am PST #6557 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

her acolyte, the guy she sent over to take out Adama and Adama's entire staff.

If she trusted him to take her place, she was a much poorer judge of character than I'd assumed.


Consuela - Jan 16, 2006 9:33:03 am PST #6558 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

And don't forget overcoats and autopsy tables.


Betsy HP - Jan 16, 2006 9:37:30 am PST #6559 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

If she didn't know Adama's phone call was to tell Kara to kill her, she's a much poorer judge of character than I assumed.


Katie M - Jan 16, 2006 9:38:14 am PST #6560 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

RE SG spoilers: I'm just letting go. I mean, okay, fine, mystically aged kid. Fine. Whatever. You know, I don't actually mind as much as I should. At least it isn't an infant! At least it presumably won't be, you know, hanging around the SGC! At least it's a girl for once instead of a boy!

And hey, maybe at the end of the season Vala will cut her daughter's throat and they'll all go work for the Ori.


Betsy HP - Jan 16, 2006 9:41:22 am PST #6561 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

I really, really wish the SG-1 writers had taken a hint from SGA fanfic and gone all-penguin all the time instead. Seriously. Vala's Penguin Baby. An idea whose time has come.