Garret Wang is a stud.
Mmm.
Mal: You want to tell me how come there's a statue of you here looking at me like I owe him something? Jayne: Wishing I could, Captain.
'Jaynestown'
Boxed Set, Vol. II: "It's a Cookbook...A Cookbook!!"
A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
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§ ita § - Jan 07, 2006 12:51:38 pm PST #6208 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Mikey - Jan 07, 2006 2:31:43 pm PST #6209 of 10001
All this time, I thought Hunter was a bitch. Turns out she was just hungry.
Mikey -- Doctor Who the Complete First Season is coming out in March -- you mean Doctor Who 2005.
No, Sumi. That's what they're calling it. Points to BBC page.
Beverly - Jan 07, 2006 3:10:56 pm PST #6210 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
Huh. I just remembered Cain's little notification to Adama, that she was pulling some of Galactica's crew onto Pegasus and sending Pegasus crew onto Galactica, in light of the info from her XO. As well as infiltrating and suborning Galactica's comraderie with informants, she's also strip-mining personnel for her own ship, and dumping some of the less-desirable.
Betsy HP - Jan 07, 2006 3:57:51 pm PST #6211 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
Both of those people need to be kicked in the butt by a psychologist. Also possibly a tactician, and after that the line starts with the people who are being sent in on an assassination mission without anything resembling an escape plan afterwards.
Who's the available psychologist? Baltar, right? I'm not thinking he's gonna be a great deal of help. On the whole, Tigh's strategy of drinking heavily is looking like a very sensible adaptation.
Tight episode. If only my cable had been working so I could SEE it. Definitely TiVoing the repeat.
I love, love, love Roslin driven to the wall. This is bullshit. It stops. She had Mommy Voice going. Not the "I love you darling" voice, but the one that says Get. Off. That. Couch. Now.
sumi - Jan 07, 2006 5:47:51 pm PST #6212 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!
Mikey skipped and skimmed -- because I commented on the confusingness of the new Who nomenclature, like, one post down.
I listened to the commentary for "Scattered" and got that the commentary was going to be spoilery so opted to now do that - I wiill say that one of the things that Moore sad was how they'd changed to opening so that they didn't interweave preview scenes through it. . . I think that they must have only changed the opening sequence to not do that for 2.1 -- because it's totally there now.
Strega - Jan 07, 2006 6:17:22 pm PST #6213 of 10001
The first four episodes of season 2 don't have the Thunderbirds-y clips at the end of the credits. My impression is that they took them out because some people complained, and put them back because even more people complained.
Katie M - Jan 07, 2006 6:29:38 pm PST #6214 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
I didn't miss the clips, but I totally missed the drums.
Nutty - Jan 07, 2006 8:10:45 pm PST #6215 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
None of it is a totally rational decision, of course. But I don't expect people in drama to behave more rationally that people in the real world do. A show All About Vulcans wouldn't be very entertaining.
I'm no Vulcan, but I'm an uninformed civilian hussy in the People's Republic of Massachusetts, and I'm shooting holes in these plans like a SWAT leader. I expect better planning from people who do this for a living.
Not a foolproof plan -- there is no such thing -- but some semblance of a complete plan. One that has an exit strategy, e.g. One that at least acknowledges that assassination is a tricky business. If the Commander is really sending Kara to her death, which is what seems to be the most likely outcome right now, then where's the acknowledgement of that? If the Commander doesn't know that he's sending her to her death, then he's too dumb to be in command. If the Commander has a plan for Kara not being executed instantly upon completing her mission, then what is it, and how does it cope with his suggestion that she commit murder in front of a whole bunch of violent, armed, possibly-hostile witnesses?
Who's the available psychologist? Baltar, right?
I have found that psychologists -- and other people with distance and insight -- are almost always missing in action-oriented fiction. If those people were present (I mean, competent ones), then the story would be a lot less melodramatically reckless.
Even if it didn't irritate my sense of contextual realism, it would irritate my sense of story. Only authorially-anointed Heroes get away with long series of stupid mistakes, and that only because The Script Said So.
DebetEsse - Jan 07, 2006 8:28:50 pm PST #6216 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.
But the characters on Galactica have been acting like idiots since the get-go. I think this meets their standards for a thought-out plan.
Not that that hasn't irritated me
Strega - Jan 07, 2006 9:18:59 pm PST #6217 of 10001
If the Commander is really sending Kara to her death, which is what seems to be the most likely outcome right now, then where's the acknowledgement of that?
Er. "You'll take Lee with you. He'll watch your back. There'll be the normal chaos and emotional high after the attack. That'll keep their guard down." I'm sure the dialogue, the framing, the editing, Starbuck's reaction, and Adama's tone all could have been even more ominous. Somehow. And then I'd think that the writers believed the audience was feeble-minded.
I'm shooting holes in these plans like a SWAT leader.By pointing out that it's risky? I just watched it again, and didn't get the impression that they expected it to be a cakewalk.
Adama hasn't been aboard the Pegasus. Starbuck has, and will be again. Given her history, I don't think it's unreasonable to think she's aware that there's some risk associated with the mission, and that Adama expects her to evaluate the situation and try to complete her mission in a way that allows her to survive it.
The last line of the episode is Adama giving Starbuck the order to kill Cain. They could have cut other things out so that the whole last act could be Starbuck & Adama discussing contingency plans, I guess. In real life, sure, I would expect more discussion. On a TV show, I will assume that discussion continues off-screen, because it's not gonna be that enlivening, and because I know what I need to know to get the story. The plan for attacking the Cylons takes a couple of minutes to go over, because the fine details (which civilian ships are used as bait, who pilots them, where do the passengers go it the meantime, etc.) aren't worth wasting screen time on.