The Bay City Rollers, now that's music.

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Boxed Set, Vol. II: "It's a Cookbook...A Cookbook!!"  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


§ ita § - Dec 26, 2005 12:51:43 pm PST #5812 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Boy is he gonna be pissed off when he gets back.

Especially when he realises he could have shucked the weights and tried floating up instead--he'd still have made time while he was dead that way.


DCJensen - Dec 26, 2005 2:22:29 pm PST #5813 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

I seem to recall Connor MacLeod sinking to the bottom and having to walk out, in the first Highlander movie. Maybe the Immies vary in floatyness.


WindSparrow - Dec 26, 2005 2:26:19 pm PST #5814 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Just watched some Who bloopers Daniel dled. Killer.


tiggy - Dec 26, 2005 3:24:42 pm PST #5815 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

bloopers? wherefore art these bloopers?


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 26, 2005 3:28:40 pm PST #5816 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Methos founded the Watchers? Where was that established?

I can't name the episode, but I remember Joe confronting him about having started the whole shebang. It was essentially a way to keep tabs on all his potential enemies.


§ ita § - Dec 26, 2005 3:36:34 pm PST #5817 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Seems that's contradicted in season 6, Matt.


DCJensen - Dec 26, 2005 3:59:34 pm PST #5818 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

I got the bloopers a while back off ahem. Most of them are obviously off much-copied VHS tapes, and are Real Media .ram files, plus one .avi file.


Betsy HP - Dec 26, 2005 4:50:00 pm PST #5819 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Especially when he realises he could have shucked the weights and tried floating up instead--he'd still have made time while he was dead that way.

After you've actually drowned, I don't think you float until you start decomposing. Lungs full of water.

And I know Methos is hot, but I ain't making time with him while he's dead.


§ ita § - Dec 26, 2005 5:04:02 pm PST #5820 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Hmm. Now I want to google. I'm thinking you don't need your lungs full of water to drown, and in fact that'd take a lot of inhaling.

Wikipedia says "Tidal volume (TV) is the amount of air breathed in or out during normal respiration. It is normally from 450 to 500 mL." Then there's "Inspiratory reserve volume similarly, is the additional air that can be inhaled after a normal tidal breath in. About 2.5 more litres can be inhaled."

So you could get 3 litres of water in, which is just more than half the normal adult lung capacity. That would be about 7 pounds which is quite heavy. But let me google more...

More than likely, some amount of water enters the lung in the vast majority of cases, probably in over 90%. However, the amount of water that actually enters the lungs varies considerably and, in the vast majority of cases it is 22ml/kg or less—and in most of those cases substantially less.” (This translates to roughly a tablespoon of water per pound weight of the victim).

My head hurts. I'm not doing the math. Could tip the density.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 26, 2005 5:25:21 pm PST #5821 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I assume once a body relaxes in death water could also enter the esophagus, stomach, and slowly saturate through the tissues as well. The lungs alone wouldn't have to account for the bouyancy differential.