Zoe: Next time we smuggle stock, let's make it something smaller. Wash: Yeah, we should start dealing in those black-market beagles.

'Safe'


Boxed Set, Vol. II: "It's a Cookbook...A Cookbook!!"  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 30, 2005 11:36:58 am PST #5469 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Did you like season 2? I don't know how much of my frustration with Carnivàle was due to dealing with it and Galactica at the same time, but I felt like it was playing a limbo game with my expectations.

I liked it, but there were a lot of things that I felt were done poorly in comparison to Season 1. The glacial pace, mystery, and devotion to mood of the previous year were things that made me love it. I also loved the Brother Justin storyline back when he appeared to be a righteous man struggling against his sinister destiny, rather than a mwah-ha-ha-ing cardboard villain.

The only things I liked better about Season 2 were the (largely unrealized) hints that Iris would be her brother's undoing, and the extra 50 IQ points they gave Ben toward the end. Oh, and the more prominent use of the "shake dust" score.


Strega - Nov 30, 2005 12:14:12 pm PST #5470 of 10001

I also loved the Brother Justin storyline back when he appeared to be a righteous man struggling against his sinister destiny, rather than a mwah-ha-ha-ing cardboard villain.

So very much yes. To everything you said, but that one in particular. For a while I thought maybe he was a righteous man serving a wrathful Old Testament Jehovah, which was also fun.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 30, 2005 12:45:46 pm PST #5471 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I LOVED the fact that the earthly representative of the supernatural forces of Darkness was (at first) a devout minister who was tormented by his visions and the powers he possessed, while the representative of Light was a surly murderer who was rejected by his family and fell in with a bunch of society's outcasts while on the run from the law.

It got a lot less fun when Ben became nicer and more respectable and Justin started doing evil for fun rather than in service to the Lord.


Vortex - Nov 30, 2005 12:54:04 pm PST #5472 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I LOVED the fact that the earthly representative of the supernatural forces of Darkness was (at first) a devout minister who was tormented by his visions and the powers he possessed,

Caleb?


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 30, 2005 1:00:58 pm PST #5473 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Brother Justin not quite so much with the "vaginas are the root of all evil" dogma.


Vortex - Nov 30, 2005 1:02:47 pm PST #5474 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

ah, i see. it just struck me how much your description said "caleb" to me.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 30, 2005 3:12:53 pm PST #5475 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Hmmm, wonder if this bit from a Tori Higginson interview was joking or serious?

GW: You have obviously been shooting Season Two for some time now. What do you especially like about this year?

TH: That David Hewlett is in a dressing room farther away from me.


Strega - Nov 30, 2005 4:46:35 pm PST #5476 of 10001

Heh. Justin was genuinely tormented by his demons. Caleb was sorta nagged by them.

But yeah, I had all these insanely convoluted theories, and I knew they were bullshit but it was fun to come up with them until everything turned into a cartoon. It was like having David Lynch do the first half of a movie, and George Lucas coming in to finish it.


tommyrot - Nov 30, 2005 4:51:55 pm PST #5477 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

That's what SW:E3:RotS needed - Darth Vader inhaling nitrous and screaming, "Don't you fucking look at me!"


Strega - Nov 30, 2005 5:03:57 pm PST #5478 of 10001

Ha! Yeah, Lynch finishing a Lucas movie would obviously be awesome.

Oh, oh! It could end with Obi-Wan banging his head into a mirror and chortling, "How's Annie? How's Annie?"