Cylons - came from some sort of AI . and they have more of us in them than the BSG people are admitting. In fact, there seems to be only the one difference . and therefore the end of the show - when they were playing space invaders with the cylons was painful.

We still don't know how "human" and intelligent the "machine" Cylons (the raiders and centurians) are. I wonder if the producers haven't decided this yet. So far they haven't been portrayed as being anything more than robots (in the common, scifi sense of being machines, as opposed the "intelligent robots" of sci-fi that correspondingly deserve the same rights as any intelligent lifeform would deserve).

Of course, thinking about this quickly gets complicated. If the "human" Cylons "evolved" from, say, the earlier Centurians, then the early Centurians almost certainly were more than mere "mechanical" robots . OTOH, the early Centurians may have been the product of some other Cylon intelligence that later went on to produce both the improved Centurians and the "human" Cylons.

I know I'm not explaining this well, but it's 2:22 AM and I should really be asleep.

I think there's a reason Lee's in a ship with the Pegasus CAG, and it involves brains on the upholstery or the threat thereof.

I guess this question goes back to whether the larger ship had any intention of "joining" the existing group, or was just stripping the Galactica for spare parts. If the former, then it makes sense to control key players. (Live hostages.)

But if the latter, then the intent is either to recruit or kill. Recruiting, that might take a while, but I can think of 20 sinister ways to kill a guy and make it look like a stupid accident, without dragging him along on a mission.

What if he does something heroic in public? Better to make him die via stupidity than intrepidity.

Hello, yes, my name is Borgia.

Oh, one more thing I learned from the commentary - the Six-model Cylon that's on Pegasus is named Gina. It's a reference to certain hard-core fans of TOS, who refer to the new series as GINO - Galactica In Name Only.

But if the latter, then the intent is either to recruit or kill.

Nope. The intent is to tell Daddy "My name is Adama, same as the Captain's" that he does *exactly* what the nice Admiral says or his son is shot for any of a number of good military reasons.

I couldn't believe Lee played that card. He should have damned well known better, given that he's spent his life trying to get out from his father's shadow.

Yeah, it seemed weird that he said that to me, too

Lee likes pulling rank, and doesn't always think before he speaks. He's prettier than he is smart.

Lee likes pulling rank, and doesn't always think before he speaks. He's prettier than he is smart.

::head falls off neck from nodding so hard::

Nope. The intent is to tell Daddy

No, I meant all "intent" in those paragraphs was from the admiral's POV. I have no idea what sparks Lee's tiny brain. (I mean, clearly the plot whispered sweet nothings in his ear.)

From the admiral's POV, Lee is a potential asset, or a threat. If a threat, why bother pussyfooting around? If she still isn't sure whether he'll be an asset, then I can understand why he is still breathing.

If his asset value relates to his captivity, why not bury him in paperwork in some basement (do spaceships have basements?), instead of putting him on a headset, attached to a news source, in an important situation? It's totally possible to be a hostage and not even know it.

My guess is to take Lee as an hostage.

Cain would use him if Adama stepped out of line. Hell, the is the same lady who was okay with rape, letting her officers see it as a sport, and killing a long time friend for disagreeing.

I find myself much more intrested in what Kara will be doing once the battle starts.

I think it was facinating to see 6's response to her mutilated copy. They have to have seen their copies killed many time's over, yet this repsonse and her need to help her was very intresting.

Was I the only one shouting for Tyrol and Helo to get to Boomer in time and covering my eyes incase they did not?

I think it was facinating to see 6's response to her mutilated copy. They have to have seen their copies killed many time's over, yet this repsonse and her need to help her was very intresting.

I find myself wondering if we'll see her again, because I thought this ep clarified that she is, and has always been, merely a figment of Baltar's tortured imagination. When he says that he's "quite literally never stopped thinking about her," he's admitting to himself that he's not special, there's no Cylon chip in his head, he's simply half-mad and it's time to deal with that. (Dealing with it by trying to form a bond with another copy of the same Cylon model who he knows nothing about is probably not the smartest move, but then, none of the Galactica crew are known for choosing rationality over emotional instinct.)