Tracy: Well-- That call -- That call means you just murdered me. Mal: No, son. You murdered yourself. I just carried the bullet a while.

'The Message'


Boxed Set, Vol. II: "It's a Cookbook...A Cookbook!!"  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Betsy HP - Mar 20, 2005 3:20:29 pm PST #418 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Right. In the last three days, I think we saw three of those: Vitas Mortis, Picture If You Will, Dream A Little Dream. (That's the DVD ordering.) At least Out Of Our Minds is cued up and ready to go.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 20, 2005 3:39:56 pm PST #419 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I have to speak up in defense of "La Bomba," which to me was a rollicking thrill-ride that restored a lot of my lost affection for the series. Sure, it had people riding out a nuke in an elevator, and Sikozu pulling that previously unsuspected Skarran-killing superpower out of her ass. But it's not as if the show didn't train us to use jazz hands when waving away the plot silliness long ago. And it gave us back the real Aeryn, who'd been AWOL for far too long .


§ ita § - Mar 20, 2005 3:56:10 pm PST #420 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Consuela eloquently says what I was feeling. That was not a happy Jack, nor even an entertainingly unhappy one, which I'm willing to entertain for a little while. It hurt me to watch him so torn up.


Betsy HP - Mar 20, 2005 4:00:59 pm PST #421 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Which show is this, and should I be watching for the pretty pretty boys or for the writing?


§ ita § - Mar 20, 2005 4:04:39 pm PST #422 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Why do I watch Stargate? It's never brilliant TV, but it's engaging TV, and fun TV when it's on -- and when it's on it can be like a little Chinese puzzle where they slot the doohickey from season one into the unresolved plot detail from season two and swish it around with the knowledged they gained last episode.

There are only a couple through-notes on the character's emotional development. By and large, they're the same people in different (or similar) situations.

The locations are all very Vancouver, much of the costuming sucks, you'll never be transported by the language -- but ... I don't know. I can't get enough of the OT4 that is SG-1.

Plus, Jack O'Neill is my favourite TV character.


Betsy HP - Mar 20, 2005 4:05:38 pm PST #423 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Living or discontinued? Because nobody's ever gonna beat out Emma Peel.


Consuela - Mar 20, 2005 4:15:28 pm PST #424 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Which show is this, and should I be watching for the pretty pretty boys or for the writing?

I'm not sure I get the context here. ita is following up on an earlier exchange about Jack O'Neill in the last Stargate episode that aired.

You should watch Farscape for the pretty and the writing, which is occasionally brilliant, and almost always very good. Except when it sucks, but I'd say the bar is set very high.

If you were to watch Stargate, it would be for the premise, which has great potential, and the characters, who are engaging, even if they don't get to evolve much. The writing's not all that fab, although they're better at remembering their own canon than many non-Joss genre shows. Oh, and it's pretty too, but in a different way than Farscape. Still, hard to beat the black tank tops. And the team dynamic, which I like a lot. t sighs wistfully Season 9 is going to be different.


§ ita § - Mar 20, 2005 4:16:45 pm PST #425 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think Emma Peel totally blew everyone out of the water when she showed up, and the discordance between her and her surroundings will elevate her forever.

But -- I don't want to have sex with her, and her fight scenes are appalling. So Jack wins on both those two counts.

Ooh. I just had a thought -- F/C/M (or who'd win in a cage match ...) Buffy/Zoe/Emma.


DavidS - Mar 20, 2005 4:17:44 pm PST #426 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Ya gotta marry Zoe.


§ ita § - Mar 20, 2005 4:20:22 pm PST #427 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think it would come down to M Zoe, C Buffy (sorry, dear!), F Emma.

Emma does have the saucier wardrobe.

I think I'd pick Zoe in a throwdown, myself. It's possible I have no perspective.