Cool that Steve Bacic and Jewel were there to counteract and protect you from the aura of toolishness that must radiate off Sorbo.

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Finally. I'm finally caught up on BSG, and so can read the thread ... of course, I can't watch either of the next two eps in time, so it's a brief thing, me joining y'all.

I'm in a bit of a Firefly/BSG sparring match. He likes Firefly well enough, I like BSG, obviously, but the unremitting tension (we watched four or five eps back to back) with about three laughs (and the barking, short, kind) isn't a plus for me the same way it is for him.

I don't know if BSG can make me cry. If so, it'll be something EJO does and/or the President's death. Not like Firefly did. It's also not as beautiful, and definitely not as funny.

I value those things, and feel like BSG is more like a note than like music (cf Lorne's quote about holding a note) without really meaning to devalue it so. Just that I need to have my emotions back for recycling. The hair on my arms was very tired by the end of Home II.

In the 800 odd messages I just read -- was it discussed about Boomer being the lurve model of the Cylons? It seems to be regarded that her design is necessary risk, and it did get Caprica!Boomer right where Baltar!Six said she should be, so I'm guessing she's not too far off plan. Still, a lot of Cylons bought it due to her efforts, as well as the discovery/loss of the farm(s) on Caprica.

I think it's interesting that it's possible to read SG1 as anti-religion, and BSG as pro. Well, maybe not pro, but recognising it as a strong and pretty unjudged motivator in people's lives. Not to mention the fact that the bad guys are the monotheists.

Also interesting that when the civil and military fractured, the sentiment seems to have stayed with the military. Adama's discussion with the Chief about Boomer was way more tender than the President managed with/about her Boomer. And her discussion of Boomer thinking she was in love was a nice contrast with Adama saying that thinking you're in love means you're in love. But I'd like to see more of Adama reacting to his Boomer.

Also liked the strange not-quite-triangle of Helo/Chief/Caprica!Boomer.

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Also liked the strange not-quite-triangle of Helo/Chief/Caprica!Boomer.

Yes, the awkwardness there was well-played. By both Douglas and Penikett.

Ooh. Did we know he's the son of former Yukon premier Anthony David John Penikett? Or that Aaron Douglas is in The Exorcism of Emily Rose? Or that Douglas and Peter Williams (SG:1's Apophis) were in Chronicles of Riddick?

Sorry. Take away my IMDb link, now, please.

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Just that I need to have my emotions back for recycling.

Yes, yes, YES. BSG is unrelievedly grim.

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It's also not as beautiful, and definitely not as funny.

I can't compare it to the other shows, but I thought the scene where Baltar convinced Boomer to kill herself was hilarious. Actually, just about anything with Baltar or Helo amuses me.

Okay, so maybe the humor is a tad dark.

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Helo? I find him quite boring, especially around other people. At least they offed Crashdown, or I wouldn't be able to tell their wooden selves apart.

Baltar is just a cigarette holder and a couple missed shaves away from twirling his moustache and cackling like a madman. That doesn't really interest or engage me. The laughs I had were at his expense, but not from the belly.

I like him better before he decided to not report the Cylons his test revealed. He folded so damned easily I had nothing but contempt left. The couple seconds where I thought he lied about Crashdown to protect crashdown as well were good moments, but it ended up seeming like any preservation of Crashdown was completely a side effect.

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Oh, no, I didn't mean that I thought Helo by himself was a funny character. But I find Helo's story extremely funny. I loved all the stuff on Caprica last season because it was like a SF version of After Hours.

This may be another example of the thing where I don't really need to like the characters as people.

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I still don't get what's funny about Helo, though. I only stayed awake for Caprica!Boomer, and didn't see much to laugh at or with. Because I like her, I guess.

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I suppose a lot of it was dramatic irony. The fact that he has no idea how screwed he is. He gave his seat up to Baltar. He gets "rescued" by Boomer. When he sees Six again and his reaction is basically, "Wow, there's a pair of twins among the human collaborators. What are the odds?" After Boomer makes a break for it with him, and he says, "I killed lots of Cylons, and they've never sent an army after me before."

I don't know, it's hard to explain why you find something funny, or don't. But all of those things made me laugh.

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Eee. Space-ship size comparison chart. (Huge-o graphic.)

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Drawn before *Firefly* or BSG, so no Serenity.

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