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Boxed Set, Vol. II: "It's a Cookbook...A Cookbook!!"  

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Theodosia - Aug 23, 2005 11:29:39 pm PDT #3491 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

My totally unspoiled, and somewhat off-the-wall but still vaguely possible suggestion for the cliffhanger: we get some fairly convincing proof that Adama may well be a Cylon....


Jessica - Aug 24, 2005 4:48:36 am PDT #3492 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

If Adama's a Cylon, then who is Lee's real father? (If it were Cylon!Adama, presumably they'd already know they could cross-breed, right?)


sumi - Aug 24, 2005 5:06:12 am PDT #3493 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Are you thinking that there are actual people that the Cylons clone and then replace with the cylon-version?


-t - Aug 24, 2005 5:12:50 am PDT #3494 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Are you thinking that there are actual people that the Cylons clone and then replace with the cylon-version?

I was thinking that earlier in the series, but I haven't seen any evidence for it. They've got Starbuck's DNA, now, I'm expecting her to be copied at some point.


Nutty - Aug 24, 2005 5:14:26 am PDT #3495 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I think the cylons are a steaming heap of signifiers desperately in search of a referend.


Jessica - Aug 24, 2005 5:40:47 am PDT #3496 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Are you thinking that there are actual people that the Cylons clone and then replace with the cylon-version?

No, because all the evidence we've seen suggests that human-model Cylons are original beings, not copies of preexisting humans.

Which is why I think Adama's not a Cylon -- he's got a son. The Cylons wouldn't be so obsessed with human-Cylon cross-breeding if they'd already done it.


-t - Aug 24, 2005 5:46:40 am PDT #3497 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

all the evidence we've seen suggests that human-model Cylons are original beings, not copies of preexisting humans.

What evidence? I'll grant a lack of evidence for copies, but I can't recall any evidence for original beings.


Jessica - Aug 24, 2005 5:48:47 am PDT #3498 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Caprica!Boomer seemed pretty clear that she was Sharon, not a copy with Sharon's memories. I don't think we have any reason to disbelieve her, or any reason to assume she's unique.


Theodosia - Aug 24, 2005 5:56:24 am PDT #3499 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

If Adama's a Cylon, then who is Lee's real father?

Tigh, obviously. Because he'd do anything for Adama.

Has Adama actually taken the Cylon detector test?

What if he's a Mark 1 Cylon, which proved to be too human and were removed from service?

(I'm feeling more than ordinarily evil this morning.)


tommyrot - Aug 24, 2005 5:59:06 am PDT #3500 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Has Adama actually taken the Cylon detector test?

In "Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down," Roslyn tells Baltar to do a test on Adama, and Adama tells him to test Tigh's wife. Balter goes back and forth between the two tests. I don't think he ever finished the Adama test.