The GF pilot was really cool, and Michelle Forbes kicks ass, as she always does. Stoopid WB.
There should be a fan campaign to get them to reconsider...
Just kidding...
And now my boy's in love. All hearts and flowers. But, doesn't it freak you out that she used to change your diapers? I mean, when you think about it, the first woman you boned is the closest thing you've ever had to a mother. Doing your mom and trying to kill your dad. Hm. There should be a play.
Angelus ,'Damage'
Boxed Set, Vol. II: "It's a Cookbook...A Cookbook!!"
A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.
Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.
This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.
DXMachina - Jun 12, 2005 5:59:01 am PDT #1457 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
§ ita § - Jun 12, 2005 6:42:50 am PDT #1458 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Re: Doctor Who
Now, that's an asspull.
Tom Scola - Jun 12, 2005 7:28:53 am PDT #1459 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
Technically, not an asspull, because they've been foreshadowing with the "bad wolf" thing the whole series.
In any event, asspulls are par for the course on Doctor Who. Russell T Davies is just trying to stick to the series' formalisms. The Bad wolf thing is a lampshade hanging.
alienprayer - Jun 12, 2005 9:10:30 am PDT #1460 of 10001
Conservative, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. -Bierce
I am shocked at how ecstatic I felt just from the background hum on the ship at the end. The number of little things in the episode sold me.
Fiona - Jun 12, 2005 10:27:20 am PDT #1461 of 10001
I thought ita was referring to the appearance of Captain Jack's gun. Which was a total asspull. I did love him with the Trinny and Susannah-bots. Captain Jack has totally grown on me. I don't know if he'll survive the series though.
On edit: according to Doctor Who Confidential (which is on BBC3 just after the show is on BBC1), a shot of Captain Jack's bum from behind after he's been defabricated was the ONLY THING in the entire series which the BBC refused to show. Damn.
Tom Scola - Jun 12, 2005 10:42:45 am PDT #1462 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
Oh, yeah. Duh.
§ ita § - Jun 12, 2005 12:05:10 pm PDT #1463 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Odd, Tom, that you weren't as fixated on the idea of Captain Jack's ass as I was, or as Fiona.
Or perhaps not at all.
I should be grabbing these confidentials, shouldn't I? I wonder if they'd be on a DVD release.
I love everyone on that show right now, which is weird, because I'd not expected to love a third wheel. Maybe the HoYay helps.
Okay, maybe not maybe.
Tom Scola - Jun 12, 2005 1:59:11 pm PDT #1464 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
I heard that the confidentials won't be on the DVDs.
Fiona - Jun 12, 2005 10:29:46 pm PDT #1465 of 10001
I don't find the Confidentials that great, I have to say. They're about 20 minutes of self-promotion of the new stuff and about 10 minutes of digging up old stuff, and the proportions need to be the other way round to keep things interesting, IMO. Occasionally there are some nice little tidbits, though, plus Russell T. Davies is a hoot, I love the guy. Peter Davison and Sylvester McCoy have hardly aged a jot, Tom Baker has aged well, Colin Baker hasn't.
I'm surprised they won't be on the DVDs. Seem like prime filler-fodder to me.
Fiona - Jun 12, 2005 10:44:35 pm PDT #1466 of 10001
Russell T. D. speaks.
Edit - heh:
The team began to gather. If we had been in LA, we would have just wandered along the lot and snapped up production teams from whatever sci-fi show had been axed that week. But that expertise did not exist in the UK.
And
On screen, the Doctor was deliberately flying the flag as a very British icon (Routemaster buses, Big Ben, Simon Callow) while off screen, the concept was given a very American kick up the arse. We built in sweeps episodes - event episodes and two-part stories placed strategically throughout the run, designed to boost ratings. The last in the series quickly became the "season finale". And we did not just learn structure from the States, we stole story. So many good dramas - thank you, Buffy - had expanded the genre. They showed us that if you can laugh and cry in the middle of a story, then the adventure is that much better.
Did I mention that I love Russell T. Davies?