How did your brain even learn human speech? I'm just so curious.

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The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


SailAweigh - Jul 20, 2007 11:02:22 am PDT #9105 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Alt-history is very big right now. I think close to 50% of what I'm reading right now falls into that category. Good luck, Susan!


Laga - Jul 20, 2007 11:35:37 am PDT #9106 of 10001
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

Never mind. I looked it up: drabble.


Susan W. - Jul 20, 2007 11:40:14 am PDT #9107 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Alt-history is very big right now.

I just hope it doesn't peak too soon! I can only write so fast, what with the full-time job and the kid, and I'd hate to finish this thing only to hear, "Well, a year ago we would've bought it, but no one wants these anymore."


SailAweigh - Jul 20, 2007 12:37:54 pm PDT #9108 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

It's been building over many years, Harry Turtledove's been writing alt-history for at least 10 years. I think it's got a long way to go before it's played out. Probably more die down than play out. You'll get it in there!


Susan W. - Jul 20, 2007 1:03:48 pm PDT #9109 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I hope so! This one's gotten off to a really slow start because of the challenges of alternate history. Many of my major characters, including the series protagonist and antagonist, are real people, so I'm having to research them fairly intensively in order to effectively get inside their heads. The other problem with real people is that there are too many of them--if I'd invented my protagonist, his parents would've had two children. They had six. Another important figure has oodles of aunts, making it hard for me to believably isolate her the way I'd like to make my plot nice and tidy. And that's not even getting into the sheer number of Important People who ought to play some sort of role. I feel like I could spend the next ten years of my life reading VIP biographies of my era and STILL leave someone out. I'm tempted to kill off all the inconvenient people, but I'm already killing four well-known people before their times, and I feel like anything beyond that would get ridiculous.

And then when it comes to the action side, I have the opposite problem. Instead of being bounded in by messy reality, I can no longer rely on what really happened as a crutch. In TSL, there's a battle sequence set during the storming of Badajoz. Once I'd done my research, I was able to write it with confidence, since all I was doing was inserting my fictional character into a well-attested real sequence of events. Any mistakes and military blunders aren't my stupidity--they're that of the generals involved. But for this story, I have to make all that stuff up. MUCH harder.

Anyway, I started writing 2-3 months ago, and I'm on my third attempt to get through the first 50 pages and get the story rolling. I hope I can pick up the pace soon...


Typo Boy - Jul 20, 2007 1:44:10 pm PDT #9110 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Alternative history has been around a long time. "Ring the Jubilee" though by a SF writer was simply alternate history. For that matter it turns out that H.G. Wells "Men like Gods" was not the worlds first alternate history. They were apparently a popular genre in the 19th century! So popularity may rise and fall, but not going anywhere.

And welcome back Susan!


Ginger - Jul 20, 2007 4:36:11 pm PDT #9111 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

As TB said, Ward Moore's Bring the Jubilee dates back to the '50s and the ultimate alternate history book, Philip K. Dick's Man in the High Castle was published in the '60s.


Anne W. - Jul 20, 2007 5:20:34 pm PDT #9112 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Welcome back, Susan! I have to say, you sound amazingly jazzed and enthusiastic and just plain up about this possible new direction. I think it will go well for you.


Beverly - Jul 20, 2007 9:30:53 pm PDT #9113 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Hi Susan! Welcome back. It does sound like you have some great new plans to work on. I admire your un-wilty-ness in the face of disappointment.


Susan W. - Jul 20, 2007 9:35:46 pm PDT #9114 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Oh, believe me, I've had my wilty moments, not to mention serious envy of writers who started at the same time I did or later who have books on the shelves now. But I've gone too far down this road to quit. I went six weeks without writing when we were moving to our new place and I was switching jobs, and I swear I had withdrawal symptoms.

And I'm glad my enthusiasm for my WIP is coming through all my angst about how hard it is!