sj, I'd love a quick game. I can only do one, though; there's sanding and scraping that needs doing.
Anyone else?
Ouhh! Snacks! The secret to any successful migration! Who's up for some tasty fried meat products!?
Anya ,'Touched'
The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...
A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.
deborah grabien - Mar 29, 2005 8:27:31 am PST #908 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.
sj - Mar 29, 2005 8:31:50 am PST #909 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
Deb, Semantics, table 50.
deborah grabien - Mar 29, 2005 8:35:15 am PST #910 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.
On my way.
Connie Neil - Mar 29, 2005 9:07:01 am PST #911 of 10001
brillig
drive by drabble
I know others have the right to the vigils. Beyond husband, he is son and brother. But I prefer to sit alone. My strength is a silent thing, like mountains. I want no Virgil on my journey, no one I must prop up, no one for whom I have to put on a happy face, who cannot cope with the cold stillness which gets me through this.
To escape Inferno you must go into its heart. In the end, everyone makes that trip alone. I prefer to have no companions who need lied to.
deborah grabien - Mar 29, 2005 9:25:23 am PST #912 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.
connie, that's really powerful, but there's a word missing, or off:
I prefer to have no companions who need lied to.
Betsy HP - Mar 29, 2005 9:28:46 am PST #913 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
who need lied to.
That stumbled me, too, but I think it's a regional dialect issue. I'd say "need lying to", but I think "need lied to" is the preferred usage in parts of the Midwest, for instance.
deborah grabien - Mar 29, 2005 9:48:05 am PST #914 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.
It is?
Cool! Noted. Sorry, connie - I hadn't come across that before.
Karl - Mar 29, 2005 9:50:29 am PST #915 of 10001
I adore all you motherfuckers so much -- PMM.
With people I've known who've used both, "This needs fixed" is more time-urgent than "This needs fixing." It's an economical way of saying "This should have been fixed long before now." Similarly for Connie's "need lied to"; I read it as more strongly stated than I would read "need lying to," or even "need to be lied to."
Edited to add: Connie, that's a heartbreaker. Lovely stuff.
sj - Mar 29, 2005 9:53:25 am PST #916 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
Connie, that's a wonderful drabble. All of the drabbles are making me teary eyed today.
Connie Neil - Mar 29, 2005 10:20:20 am PST #917 of 10001
brillig
but I think it's a regional dialect issue.
Huh. I never think I've got a dialect, but every now and then it just pops up. It never occurred to me to put "lying to" or "to be lied to" in that sentence. I learned the language in Western Pennsylvania, which is sort of the borderlands of the Midwest, I guess. Appalachia/Midwest. In my head, though, now that I think about it, it has more of a hill country feel to it. How intriguing. My brain was in a very formal, precise place, but my word choices are not "proper" English.
As Karl said, it does have the feel of immediacy, on the lines of "You need fed" as a summation of a situation which requires an action to resolve. It feels like the action will definitely occur in the very near future--the speaker is about to turn around and pull stuff off the shelves and start cooking--rather than a statement of possibility.
Or, in other words, words are fun.