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The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Beverly - Mar 22, 2005 9:19:38 pm PST #798 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Robin, I hope your profile addy's an active one. You have mail there.


Nutty - Mar 23, 2005 6:51:50 am PST #799 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I would also note that there's a difference between coming to a critique with the whole idea worked out in your head, but with problems in how to implement the idea, and coming to a critique with ideas still jumbled up.

The former wants questions like, "How can I make that clearer?" while the latter warrants a full-blown "But wait, I thought I was saying this other thing entirely. Let us now talk out what the hell I meant by that." Which is not to say the former can't turn into the latter, but at base, they're different kinds of questions. I don't know many people who will refuse to admit that their implementation of an idea needs work; but I know plenty who can't admit it if their ideas need work.

(I find it refreshing and sometimes hilarious when somebody else turns out to know what I am saying better than I do myself. In that appalling, tucked-skirt-into-pantyhose way, but, you know.)


deborah grabien - Mar 23, 2005 9:37:17 am PST #800 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Which is not to say the former can't turn into the latter, but at base, they're different kinds of questions.

Yes, this. This a thousand times over, and then some. Different questions, different needs and, vitally important, with different impacts on the work.


deborah grabien - Mar 24, 2005 11:18:33 am PST #801 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

(deep breath)

This is a bit longer than drabble length, and I'm not cutting a word. As some people know, I'm in the process of recovering memories of a certain time period. I hadn't actually forgotten about this, except for one thing; I'd forgotten I was crying at the time.

Contents of a Kitchen Floor

Two bottles of Seagrams whiskey, one empty, the other with an inch of liquid left.

Courvoisier, I'm counting three bottles, sticky with depletion.

The cats' dishes, empty.

A scattered pile of mail, probably pushed from the table by Pig or Fluff jumping away from their human, as he was fighting with his insane wife or reaching for one of the bottles I'm now bending to dispose of from my wheelchair. Included; one confirmation of the next dialysis appointment for the damaged man who emptied all these bottles into his damaged body.

Oh, and one damaged man, unconscious amid the rubble, trusting me to be there when he wakes up.

And me in my wheelchair, tears of love and longing sitting angry behind my eyes, wondering how to save him.


Pix - Mar 24, 2005 12:31:11 pm PST #802 of 10001
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Ouch, Deb...stings.


Susan W. - Mar 24, 2005 10:08:13 pm PST #803 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I just hit page 100 on the wip! In theory, I'm a quarter of the way done, though more than likely my rough draft will end up well over my desired 400 pages/100K words and I'll have to find a way to cut it. But still. It's a number. It's round. I've been staying on track this year, for the most part. I'm happy.

t pats self on back


SailAweigh - Mar 25, 2005 6:03:24 am PST #804 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Go, Susan! I haven't tried for anything more than a couple pages, double-spaced, at that.


Susan W. - Mar 25, 2005 6:09:23 am PST #805 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Oh, you better believe these are doublespaced, too. And Courier 12, which takes up a lot of space.

The truly crazy part is now that I'm used to manuscript format I prefer the look of Courier to Times New Roman. It's crisp and it photocopies well. You get into all kinds of debates about which one is better and which editors prefer and so on, but I think I'm the only person who actually likes the way Courier looks.


Anne W. - Mar 25, 2005 6:13:37 am PST #806 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Susan, you are far from the only one.


Amy - Mar 25, 2005 6:45:18 am PST #807 of 10001
Because books.

Susan, you are far from the only one.

Raises hand. Times is a bitch to copyedit, because it's too damn small. Maybe my eyes are getting older, but I much prefer Courier. I always asked my authors to submit in Courier, too.

And yay on the hundred pages. Nice solid milestone.

Oh, and Deb, that was sharp and painful and needed every word.