I didn't create the troll. I didn't date the troll. In fact I hate the troll. I helped deflate the troll-- All done.

Willow ,'Potential'


The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


victor infante - Jul 20, 2006 8:35:17 am PDT #7864 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

How much does everyone win?

Oh, they really give out the prize to someone. That's why they've not been shut down yet. But you get to be a "runner up" or somesuch (they change it around a lot) and no matter what, you have to buy the book.

They have an horrendous reputation. A lot of people, myself included, see them as nothing but scavangers.


§ ita § - Jul 20, 2006 8:37:53 am PDT #7865 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

and no matter what, you have to buy the book

Huh. They say you can't con an honest mark, but that's just semantics. You can sure fool honest people into giving you money for nothing.


victor infante - Jul 20, 2006 8:44:51 am PDT #7866 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

You can sure fool honest people into giving you money for nothing.

Yep. They prey on people who have dreams of publishing, who've invested a lot of theirselves into writing that (frankly) isn't usually very good and will get rejected anywhere legitimate. So the writer feels validated and the publisher makes a mint of people willing to shell out $75 repeatedly for thick books with a zillion poems in tiny type.


erikaj - Jul 20, 2006 8:58:45 am PDT #7867 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

I did it when I was fifteen. But I didn't buy any books. Felt like a sucker after, though.


Strix - Jul 20, 2006 11:24:15 am PDT #7868 of 10001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

So it's like the Who's Who in American High School Students of poetry?

Yarg. Students bring me similar mailings all the time; they're all "Look Ms. G! Look, I won something for being a decent student!" -- and then I get the fun job of telling them -- and their often thrilled, I-will-pay-even-though-I-make-$2 perhour-cleaning-houses parents -- that's it's a scam.

It's not a fun part of my day.


erikaj - Jul 20, 2006 11:34:27 am PDT #7869 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

Sounds like it, Erin. We missed most of the mailings afterward cause I moved, iirc.


Allyson - Jul 20, 2006 1:09:20 pm PDT #7870 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I HEART MY AGENT!

I'm a little behind, but I just read the new essays. That is some awesome stuff, my friend. Seriously. The Internet Wants Your Daughter should be read out on high, and/or This American Life. And I am particularly fond of your "Cut A Bitch" header. Really, I feel like you've come a long way from the first essays you showed me--your prose is tighter, your jokes funnier, and your themes and theses punchier, deeper, more resonant. Way to go. This book is going to be great. And that's not just your agent talking.


sj - Jul 20, 2006 1:16:28 pm PDT #7871 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Yay, Allyson!


ChiKat - Jul 20, 2006 1:27:57 pm PDT #7872 of 10001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

Yay, Allyson!! I'm totally not surprised, but it's wonderful that your agent loves it as much as it should be loved!


Atropa - Jul 20, 2006 1:31:54 pm PDT #7873 of 10001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Yay Allyson!