Whoa! I... I think I'm having a thought. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a thought. Now I'm having a plan. Now I'm having a wiggins.

Xander ,'First Date'


The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


deborah grabien - Jun 26, 2006 8:56:23 am PDT #7401 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Forwarded to Daymond, after I let Jo read it. We'll see.

If it crashes and burns, it crashes and burns. Cookies, crumbling, all that stuff.

I didn't *used* to have any particular dislike of Mondays, but these days, it does seem to be the smackdown day of the week.


Volans - Jun 26, 2006 9:03:39 am PDT #7402 of 10001
move out and draw fire

I asked as a translator, etc., to broaden the experience, make it more mainstream/ She told me "this is their world. They don't need translation." If anything, mainstreaming takes away from the experience."

I know, I know, I'm not a businessman, haven't crunched the numbers or looked at the bottom line. But I HATE this kind of pigeonholing. What it means is that I'll never read books that might teach me something new, or give me insight into a culture I don't know about, because either the book won't be marketed to me so I won't know it exists, or it will never be published.


deborah grabien - Jun 26, 2006 9:06:31 am PDT #7403 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

But I HATE this kind of pigeonholing.

Not only is it bogus as a gestalt - it's bogus specifically in this instance. Because the target audience here isn't specifically or even primarily young hip black urban hiphop fans between 17-21, or whatever. The entire idea is a broad spectrum woman readership.

Out of my hands - I sent the editor's thing on to Daymond, and we'll see what he says.

But the universe can make up its mind, pretty much anytime now: good shit or bad shit, but MAKE UP YOUR MIND.


erikaj - Jun 26, 2006 9:10:25 am PDT #7404 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

It might still be worth trying anyway. Too bad about the big score not happening yet, though.


-t - Jun 26, 2006 9:19:05 am PDT #7405 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That's a disappoining response. And a bit confusing, because their idea of how to market the book doesn't sound like what you were pitching.

I'm kinda hoping this one flip-flops again on you.


sj - Jun 26, 2006 9:50:09 am PDT #7406 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I'm sorry, Deb. I hope things can turn around on this, because it looks like it would be such an interesting project.


deborah grabien - Jun 26, 2006 10:54:05 am PDT #7407 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

And, back up the roller coaster.

Just talked to Daymond. We're doing the book. Still on, including the club in LA and Magic in Vegas.

Just talked to Marlene. She thinks that based on the editor feedback she got this morning, I should do "Yo Mama Don't Dance" first, as a pump primer. She also thinks that, based on what she heard, the book itself is not an automatic slam (I have no cred in his industry, hence the article, and he has no cred established in publishing yet), and she needs the entire thing written to sell the book.

I have a headache. I have SUCH a headache.


Amy - Jun 26, 2006 11:00:08 am PDT #7408 of 10001
Because books.

Oh dear. As someone terrified of roller coasters (both metaphorical and otherwise), I sympathize.

But hey, it's good news. He wants to do it, which means you write it. And to do that, you need to be compensated, whether the book is published or not. As long as he knows that, and you can agree on a fair price and a timeline, you're golden.

Sorry about the headache, babe.


deborah grabien - Jun 26, 2006 11:04:28 am PDT #7409 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

And to do that, you need to be compensated, whether the book is published or not.

No. No damned way. My ire is officially up and this is a challenge.

I am not going to be shit on by some twentysomething infant who thinks the American book-buying market is composed of hip urban 20-year-olds.

I am doing this book, one big tight fraught breathless suspenseful look at that world from the POV of the elite men in it. It's going to be so damned good, it'll leave any editor breathless. I'm going to write it and knock it out of the park. This one is going to make some Barry Bonds' splashdown home runs look like bunts.

I am all the way pissed off. I don't give a fuck if I ever see a dime. I'm going to write this and it's going to make Daymond happy.

What's more, it's going to get filmed, one way or the other.

Watch me. It's getting done.

And my head probably would stop aching if I stopped slamming it against the fucking desk.


Ailleann - Jun 26, 2006 11:08:13 am PDT #7410 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

Boy, deb knows how to throw a gauntlet!