I gave her everything... jewels, beautiful dresses -- with beautiful girls in them.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


erikaj - Jun 19, 2006 6:15:23 pm PDT #7262 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

My mother used to pick out my brother's basketball name.


Connie Neil - Jun 19, 2006 7:34:18 pm PDT #7263 of 10001
brillig

Picture ten [link]

M'sieur, you see what I have. I have many bottles of excellent wine, well suited to a traveler's taste and budget. Bottled water, even, for your thirst.

Some of the cheese, perhaps? There is some excellent tinned meat as well, it would fit perfectly in your rucksack. Jean-Charles at the boulangerie should have some magnificent bread coming out of the oven any minute now. Some cheese, some meat, the wine and the bread, you could not ask for a better meal.

Again you ask this! You dare come to my shop and ask for the Coca-Cola! Americans! Jean-Charles, to the barricades!


Fay - Jun 20, 2006 2:05:19 am PDT #7264 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

I am bootsie to my kids, because I don't dress top-to-toe in Baby Phat, Apple Bottoms and BCBG. And I don't own a single Coach or Vuitton bag.

blinks

...it looks like English, and yet...

is baffled


Steph L. - Jun 20, 2006 4:56:45 am PDT #7265 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

You dare come to my shop and ask for the Coca-Cola! Americans! Jean-Charles, to the barricades!

::snerk:: I like, Connie!


Typo Boy - Jun 20, 2006 6:50:33 am PDT #7266 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Snerk too.

Quick question. In a particular publisher I happen to know who ends up editing books like mine. Unfortunately for me, that editor is a VP and Associate publisher. Do I send my query to the bigwig editor (who does not know me) or to the assocate editor who normally handles the slush pile?


deborah grabien - Jun 20, 2006 7:30:31 am PDT #7267 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Gar, is there no guideline for that, one that's specific to the publisher?

My take is that, if the guy already knows you and there's no guideline specifying otherwise, send it to him. AmyLiz? Your take?

connie, that was funny. I suspect the French shopkeeper would be more likely to call that tinned meat patè, though.


Typo Boy - Jun 20, 2006 7:33:16 am PDT #7268 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Like I said bigwig does not know me. But there is no guideline as to who to send queries to. I know that the bigwig handles books like mine by a "thank you" in a book line mine. I know who handles the slush pile cause I called a receptionist and asked.

I think the publisher is discouraging unsolicited queries without outright saying they are not accepted just in case they get a good one.


deborah grabien - Jun 20, 2006 7:57:34 am PDT #7269 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Huh.

Might be worth it to query first - the "I have a proposal I believe would be a good fit with your line, who should I send it to" kind of query. If you get a name one way or the other, there's your personalised salutation. If not, you can always address it to the name the receptionist gave you. Nothing to lose, after all.

But if you want to send the proposal straight in, I'd send it to the slush pile guy.

Really, this is way more Amy's purview than mine. Me writer/Amy writer and was-editor at mainstream house.


Amy - Jun 20, 2006 8:11:04 am PDT #7270 of 10001
Because books.

Gar, never *ever* send a full manuscript, or even a proposal (outline, chapters, etc.) unsolicited.

I think the publisher is discouraging unsolicited queries without outright saying they are not accepted just in case they get a good one.

All *queries* are unsolicited -- it's the first step, after all. Unsolicited *submissions* are often discouraged, because there are always too many submissions period. Still, there's always a slush pile because a lot of writers don't do research and send stuff merrily along (see: the submissions that came to editors who had been gone for years, the volumes of poetry -- which we didn't publish -- etc.). Doesn't mean anyone actually reads it, except for fun -- most stuff like that gets tossed.

Bottom line -- if you have a name, make sure it's correct and use it. But send *only* a letter asking if the house is interested, with a SASE. And be prepared to wait for a response for a good long time.


Typo Boy - Jun 20, 2006 8:13:09 am PDT #7271 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Oh definitely going to query. There is no point in sending an unsolicited proposal I think. (Well there are some places that specifically say not to query - that want proposals straight out. But I'm not contacting them yet - waiting to see if I can get a solicitation for a proposal by querying those who do prefer queries. Cause an unsolicited proposal would have to be multiple with all the problems that implies. So definitely doing queries first.)

So If I have a name you think I ought to direct the the one page query to that name, not slush pile person?

The ideal thing would be to have an agent. But this stikes as very much a small press book - and I honestly don't think an agent is going to want to rep a first time small-presser. 15% of a small press advance is minimum wage, given what a good agent does. While obviously I'm not expecting to net money from a first book, if I think about agents then I do have to take that into consideration; an agent who worked for nothing would be unbelievable popular, and er living on catfood.