Early: Where'd she go? Simon: I can't keep track of her when she's not incorporeally possessing a space ship. Don't look at me.

'Objects In Space'


The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Typo Boy - Jun 04, 2006 12:32:07 pm PDT #6972 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

12 of them 750 words each - and Bob likes carrots is your uncle.


Amy - Jun 04, 2006 12:37:10 pm PDT #6973 of 10001
Because books.

Meanwhile, about the extra words -- wasn't there talk at one point of you doing several small interstitial pieces that you could just pop in between the longer essays? Could you still do something like that, maybe profiles of people (anonymized or not), or snarky definitions of fandom words or concepts, or bits of insider info about the showrunning process?

Allyson, this is a good idea. As are Deb's words and Cindy's list. DO NOT offer to give the money back. You can do this, without a doubt. If you need help or want me to look at something this week, just shout -- I'm around.


Topic!Cindy - Jun 04, 2006 12:40:37 pm PDT #6974 of 10001
What is even happening?

Cindy, I've talked about just about everything on that list, except maybe the Bronze Safety 'Net. It's probably timely due to all the MySpace hysteria.
Oh, good point.
I appreciate this a lot. It's thinking about answers to questions that makes things start flowing, again. I just sent an e to a friend and said, "ask me something. anything. doesn't matter if it's embarassing."
Here's one: What was your absolute lowest point in fandom?

I would like to maybe write an open letter to the douchebag who was such a shit at Comic Con. That's be hilarious, short, and catharsis all wrapped up in about 800 words.
Yes. I bet you could do 1000.
What did I do with my time?
I assume you were being rhetorical, but that could be another essay.


deborah grabien - Jun 04, 2006 12:51:09 pm PDT #6975 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

OK, another question for Allyson:

Is there anyone (as in, specific person) in fandom who you know it behooves you to like - but who you really really really can't stand?


Typo Boy - Jun 04, 2006 12:58:17 pm PDT #6976 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Deborah brought up archetypes. What are all the archetypes - not just fucktards, though obviously fucktard types are included?. Can you come up with 12 types of fan that most fandom fits into? fewer? more? Which archetype do you fit into? I'll bet you can come up with an essay on each one.


deborah grabien - Jun 04, 2006 1:03:15 pm PDT #6977 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

OK, why I love Roz Kaveney. A snippet:

I am still waiting to be summoned to represent my country in the name-dropping event at the 2012 Olympics and hoping that I am not by then too famous to qualify as an amateur

Damn, she rocks. I wonder if I can rope her into a few drabbles...?


Allyson - Jun 04, 2006 1:09:53 pm PDT #6978 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Is there anyone (as in, specific person) in fandom who you know it behooves you to like - but who you really really really can't stand?

Besides Joss? heh.

The archetypes idea is hugely interesting, deb.


deborah grabien - Jun 04, 2006 1:15:45 pm PDT #6979 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Nice thing about archetypes: you can rip them to tiny little shreds and it works. You can be kind, and it works.

Hell, that's what archetypes are for: personalising. It's what I'm going to be doing with Daymond's book.

Need help or input or stuff? Going out, but yelp in email.


Typo Boy - Jun 04, 2006 1:19:29 pm PDT #6980 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I'm presuming you have written about the non-loving of Joss? Cause if not good for many words. Also I presume you have told tales of sex or lack thereof - no porn needed; just do some mythbusting or confirm that some stories are not myths. (I ran into several works of fiction lately that portrayed orgies routinely takeing place in higher floors of cons. I'm presuming this is an attempt to appeal to the 13 year old market rather than a realistic portrayal.) Anyway "No sex in the champaigne room" would make a good added chapter.


Typo Boy - Jun 04, 2006 1:20:23 pm PDT #6981 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Anyway if the archetypes appeal start with that. After you have used up those, come back to the buffistas for more.