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The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


deborah grabien - Feb 17, 2005 3:04:16 pm PST #60 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Connie, speaking just for me? When I change, I change. It's a question of commiting to what you've decided to say, and a question of trusting your instincts.

The only time I save something is I've done a radical rewrite or taken out an entire scene, which isn't something I do often. I'm a linear writer - start at the beginning, and write in order - but I will save those, especially if I think those originals might be useful in a later book or later scene in the same book.


Polter-Cow - Feb 17, 2005 4:15:34 pm PST #61 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Connie, I usually define a draft by its sense of completion. If when you're done, you think, "Okay, this is the story as it stands," then save it. And when you start making changes, you call it a new draft, and you can make little changes on that one to your heart's content until you decide, "Okay, this is the story as it stands."

It's funny cause I was looking at my documents and I found some stories I'd started years ago. They're only a few beginning paragraphs, and if I do pick them up, I'd like to save those few beginning paragraphs regardless of whether I change them completely in the very first draft, since I'm so far away from when I initially thought of the story. So that's a case where I would save something that's incomplete.


Susan W. - Feb 17, 2005 4:20:09 pm PST #62 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Connie, with minor tweaks--changes within a scene--I just change them and leave it at that. With major changes--rewriting a scene--I'll usually keep the old version for awhile just so if I want to use any of the information later, I won't have to recreate it from scratch.


Susan W. - Feb 17, 2005 7:32:43 pm PST #63 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Ugh. I'm fighting writer's block, and I think it's because I'm working on scenes from Anna's POV immediately after Sebastian's death, and I'm just stuck on what she would be feeling and how to portray it in a way that's both believable and sympathetic.

Basically, they had a terrible marriage, so I don't think she'd be human if some part of her wasn't relieved to be free. Yet she can't actually rejoice in a death, so she's going to spend some time feeling guilty over that normal human reaction. So far I've got her doing a combination of reflecting upon what went wrong with her marriage, and probably blaming herself more and Sebastian less than she did while he was alive, and focusing resolutely on little physical details--is there a place in the village where they're staying where she can buy what she needs for a basic mourning wardrobe, how soon can she find a way to travel to Lisbon so she can sail for England, etc.?

Does that work? I'm all at sea here because I have so little experience of death, and none at all where my relationship with the deceased was weird and complicated.


Connie Neil - Feb 17, 2005 7:35:58 pm PST #64 of 10001
brillig

She might have some authentic mourning that now there is no chance to fix things, no chance to apologize or be apologized to, etc. Is there a reason she married him other than he was suitable? Some characteristic that she authentically respected? She can mourn the loss of that, as well.


Deena - Feb 17, 2005 7:38:26 pm PST #65 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

Susan, I would think the grief over the shortened life, the loss of the potential, the absence of the familiar person, whether loved or not, would be foremost. She doesn't strike me as a Faith type, aware and cynical, but a lady of her time -- If she felt relief right away, I don't think she'd recognize it for what it is. Instead, I think the relief would trickle in slowly, maybe shock at being able to laugh at something "too soon", realizing that she doesn't feel as cramped, as constrained, and building from there.


Connie Neil - Feb 17, 2005 7:45:56 pm PST #66 of 10001
brillig

the absence of the familiar person,

Oh, yeah. They may have had a difficult relationship, but there was still a commonality between them. Someone who knew her reactions, someone I'm assuming she could at least have a conversation with where they both understood the underlying assumptions. Something such as thinking in the morning, "I must remember to make sure there are four eggs poached in a particular way--no, wait. He's not here to eat those anymore."


Beverly - Feb 17, 2005 7:50:45 pm PST #67 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Deena's absolutely right. The first thing would be shock, and the numbness that accompanies sudden grief of someone close to us, whether it was intimate closeness or not. Sebastian was a pillar of her world as it was, and now the foundations of that life are shaken. She's adrift and, from personal experience, she would probably focus on details she can control, like her wardrobe, and take great pains to get it right because it keeps her from thinking about things she cannot control, or those beginning flutters of relief that any woman in her position would instantly believe to be wrong and bad.

There's a reason they give victims of emotional shock a glass of water, have them sit down, have them focus on something mundane and accomplishable. The hind brain goes on, copes, deals with and assimilates the information, so that the next time the conscious is reminded of it, it's less of a shock. This repeats, over hours, and days, and weeks, until the bereaved is able to take a more comprehensive look at the relationship and make some judgements about it. And also about the immediate future.


Susan W. - Feb 17, 2005 8:20:46 pm PST #68 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

(Stupid internet went down while I was trying to post this half an hour ago.)

Is there a reason she married him other than he was suitable? Some characteristic that she authentically respected? She can mourn the loss of that, as well.

She married him when she was 19, on less than a month's acquaintance. She'd been through two London Seasons where she was very popular, since she was lucky enough to be vivacious, quite pretty, and very rich indeed. But she never fell in love, and she was starting to get bored with the social whirl. So when she met Sebastian over the summer, he immediately attracted her with his military demeanor, serious nature, and all-around difference from the other men who'd been courting her. In her youthful inexperience, she mistook infatuation for love and discovered too late that she'd married a control freak with a misogynistic streak.

For most of her marriage, she tries to make the best of it and avoid conflict by at least outwardly complying with his wishes, but in the weeks just before his death she'd hit her breaking point and started openly defying him. As a result, their relationship went from coldly civil to frequent shouting matches. And her last words to him, at the end of such a fight, were "Just go, Sebastian."


Susan W. - Feb 17, 2005 8:36:57 pm PST #69 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

OK, keeping in mind that this is sloppy, raw, shitty first draft writing, here's what I've got of her waking up the morning after his death. Does this sound like I'm in the right emotional ballpark?

When she awoke the next morning, the silence disconcerted her. At the very beginning of consciousness, she thought she was back in Scotland, in her own room in the castle. As she came to full awareness, she noticed the warm, heavy air, how narrow and lumpy her bed was, and knew where she was. But it was so quiet. No one snored softly beside her, nor had she been awakened by an impatient hand at her shoulder and a none-too-quiet voice telling her they must march in half an hour’s time. And then she remembered. Sebastian. Gone.

The silence felt wrong. Tonight she’d ask Alex and Helen if she could put a pallet on the floor in the room they were sharing with the children and the maids. It wasn’t as if she’d be spoiling their privacy.

As she sat up, she noticed a familiar dull ache in the pit of her stomach, exactly on schedule. So that was that, then. She would not bear Sebastian a posthumous child. She wept at that, for the first time since learning of his death.