Well, personally, I kind of want to slay the dragon.

Angel ,'Not Fade Away'


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deborah grabien - Feb 28, 2006 6:36:51 pm PST #5651 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Oh, Liese.

Ouch.


SailAweigh - Feb 28, 2006 6:37:55 pm PST #5652 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Liese, very nice. I want to go on that vacation with you. Alternately, I'd like to send the current administration on a vacation to Guantanamo Bay for the next four years.

I also want to go on vacation with sarameg! Those drabbles make me miss Spain so much, it's indescribable. Particularly the last one, I've done that, too! When I was really, really drunk I could even clap in that wierd syncopated rhythm they use for flamenco and Sevillana.


Volans - Mar 01, 2006 1:40:09 am PST #5653 of 10001
move out and draw fire

So, can a drabble be less than 100 words?


Steph L. - Mar 01, 2006 3:51:14 am PST #5654 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Oh, absolutely. I'm not really a drabble dictator.


P.M. Marc - Mar 01, 2006 8:10:36 am PST #5655 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Oh, Liese. Ouch.


Typo Boy - Mar 01, 2006 1:55:15 pm PST #5656 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Hey, driving by on something less than John H. natter diet. Kudos to Gus, {{Hugs}} to Teppy. Also the money may not be good, but lots of the cool kids publish with BAEN.

In MeMeMe stuff, am doing comparative analysis section for a book proposal. No problem knowing what is comparable to me out there; I either used much of it as sources, rejected the rest as either not applicable or total crap (cough Jeremy Rifkin, cough,cough). But I'm supposed to estimate how much each book sold. Turns out publishers aren't eager to share that info for stuff that is still in print. So what is a decent basis for a good guess?

On edit - no, don't have an editor asking for a proposal. Just following a recommendation of writing the book proposal first, then basing the query on the proposal.


deborah grabien - Mar 01, 2006 1:59:13 pm PST #5657 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

TB, that's one of those questions I've never yet got the hang of. Are you agented? Ask him/her how to get it. Or take a plunge and go by the Amazon stats: number of reviews, etc. You won't get more than a wild fantasy guess. but honestly, if they're going to insist, you may need to just pull numbers out of your ass anyway, and asterisk the damned things with "estimated" highlighted.

Nice thing about fiction, they don't pull this crap much.


Allyson - Mar 01, 2006 2:02:10 pm PST #5658 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I also raise my hand with a question. Looking at my contract (wheee!) I understand everything but this: The Work will contain no material from other copyrighted works without the Publisher's consent and the written consent of the owner of such copyrighted material.

I thought that as long as a passage was attributed to the author and acknowledged in the bibliography, I was kosher.

And I have a lot of internet quotes from message boards. What's a girl to do? How do I get this written consent?


Typo Boy - Mar 01, 2006 2:03:17 pm PST #5659 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Oh, and Gus, don't normally remember authors by publisher - but Eric Flint has done some really good stuff at BAEN. Bujold has alread been mentioned as good company. Seem to remember they have a board call Baen's Bar or some such.


Typo Boy - Mar 01, 2006 2:08:10 pm PST #5660 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Allyson, short quotes from published prose works (posting on internet including boards counts as publication) is fair use. What is a "short quote" in this context is unfortunately not as simple as a word count - though often some arbitrary word cutoff is used as proxy. Most of the legal texts give word counts that can be used for practical purposes with various numbers. Ask your publisher which they use. If they tell you that there is no such thing as fair use, several lawyers have told that at the moment yes there is. Using an entire work does not meet that standard, and it is true to some extent for poetry and lyrics, but for prose short quotes are still kosher.