Okay, um, I'm lost. Uh, I'm angry, and I'm armed, so if you two have something that you need to work out --

Mal ,'War Stories'


The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


SailAweigh - Nov 09, 2005 4:23:14 pm PST #4830 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

The thing I like about the Venus of Willendorf is that all, and I mean all, the earliest experiments with fired clay figurines were females. It's all that's been found in the earliest kiln sites in Europe. Men weren't such a big deal, then. Stick it in your eye, Adam!


dcp - Nov 09, 2005 4:29:19 pm PST #4831 of 10001
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

According to the people at Terra Studios where I got my dragon Bruce, it's traditional to include a unique little "kiln god" with every firing. Some anthropomorphic, most at least zoomorphic. They don't show up in this picture, but they are displayed on the rail in front of their pottery building.


deborah grabien - Nov 09, 2005 4:37:00 pm PST #4832 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Stick it in your eye, Adam!

Damn right. I'm thinking along the lines of, yo, Fig Leaf Boy! Just eat the apple and shut up, you passive-aggressive dimwit.....


Liese S. - Nov 09, 2005 5:06:24 pm PST #4833 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Stick it in your eye, Adam!

Oh, I know. This story is all, she was this amazing baby that they found (she's not even credited with specific male parentage, she just exists) and she grew up really fast, and then she had her first period, and they created this ritual, and then she had her second period, and they created that ritual. The sun doesn't even get to impregnate her directly; it happens via a stream, thus the whole Child Born of Water thing.

Her twins are male, but then they spend all their time chasing after their absentee and potentially adulterous father and well, slaying monsters.

I barely know the stories, and of course, there are all these differing versions, what with the oral tradition and all, but they're just so lovely.

It's all so very definitely matriarchal. And the whole society really, really is. I was (and continue to be) startled by the expectations of me as the female head of household.


SailAweigh - Nov 09, 2005 5:30:31 pm PST #4834 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I liked your take on it. It gave the female more agency. I like origin myths, they tell you a lot about a culture.


deborah grabien - Nov 09, 2005 5:47:51 pm PST #4835 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Part of me wants to write something using the Dreamtime or Dawntime.

Part of me wants to grit my teeth and write the #$$#$ long form synopsis for London Calling.

Oh, and Lyssa passed on R&RNF. Not "gripping" enough for her.

Onward.


Susan W. - Nov 09, 2005 7:16:35 pm PST #4836 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I got my first agent rejection on the new project today: "Although your work sounds intriguing, I'm sorry to say that I don't believe I am the right agent for you."

Oh well. Her loss. One down, 40 or 50 to go.


Allyson - Nov 10, 2005 5:29:04 am PST #4837 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I'm sorry, Susan. I have a stack of rejection letters here from publishers, and I'm not at the point where I can say it's their loss. I keep reading them and thinking, "I suck."


Susan W. - Nov 10, 2005 6:43:41 am PST #4838 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Well, it helps a lot that my first choice agency just reopened to submissions from unpublished writers yesterday. I won't be as philosophical if they reject me.


erikaj - Nov 10, 2005 10:05:25 am PST #4839 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

Titles: Mine are never very good. Any thoughts?