Lorne: Once the word spreads you beat up an innocent old man, well, the truly terrible will think twice before going toe-to-toe with our Avenging Angel. Spike: Yes. The geriatric community will be soiling their nappies when they hear you're on the case. Bravo.

'The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco'


The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


deborah grabien - Oct 18, 2005 3:34:03 pm PDT #4600 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

That's extremely clear and easy on the eye.

Allyson, honestly? I don't know if there even are any hard and fast rules about non-fiction.

I've always understood that NaNoWriMo is actually more of disciplinary tool or a jump start for people wanting to write but having trouble getting their butts in the chair and completing something.


Susan W. - Oct 18, 2005 4:18:31 pm PDT #4601 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

That's my understanding WRT NaNoWriMo as well. I'd like to be in the right place in the creative process to try it one of these years just to see if I'm capable of that pace. Not that I'd want to write that fast all the time--I think there's something to be said for a measured pace. The first draft I just finished took 8 months. I'd like to cut that to something closer to 4-5 over the next few books, so that I could ultimately turn out a complete book every 6-9 months, including research and editing time.


deborah grabien - Oct 18, 2005 4:31:22 pm PDT #4602 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

I'm of the school that believes a book should take whatever length of time the book wants to take. If it isn't getting finished because the writer's wandered off to grow dental floss rather than sit down and write, that's one thing. But for me, I'd neither rush a book without a gun to my head nor deliberately try to fit the time into a particular pacing schedule.

And yes, the deadline on Cruel Sister was in fact a gun to the head of sorts. But I wouldn't have agreed to the deadline if I hadn't been damned sure I could get it done. Whether I got it done and it was any good, mind you now, that's a whole different issue.

Back to work.


Susan W. - Oct 18, 2005 4:41:25 pm PDT #4603 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Well, I found that having weekly goals and an overall target for when I hoped to finish helped me write the second book a lot more quickly than the first. And since it's also a much better book, I don't think I lost anything by pushing myself a bit.


deborah grabien - Oct 18, 2005 4:45:06 pm PDT #4604 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Nope (edit: nope as in, not losing anything by pushing yourself). That's exactly my point: whatever works for the individual writer. One writer I know won't write anything without doing double and triple outlines first; I'd rather eat ground rat intestines than outline, because the rigidity that works so well for her would kill anything I tried to do. Same thing with structure and timing. One writer's NaNoWriMo is another writer's tenth level of hell, and so on.


Atropa - Oct 18, 2005 5:41:36 pm PDT #4605 of 10001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

twitches

I just sent e-mail to Neil Gaiman, letting him know about the new Gothic Charm School website. Yes, when I saw him at the Seattle signing two weeks ago, he asked me what happened to the Gothic Miss Manners site. Yes, he did say he wanted me to let him know when the new site was up. But *still*. I just e-mailed one of my top literary idols, about something slightly self-promotional. I feel funny.

twitch twitch twitch


Kristen - Oct 18, 2005 5:43:58 pm PDT #4606 of 10001

Jilli, that's so awesome!


Allyson - Oct 18, 2005 5:59:53 pm PDT #4607 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Awww, Jilli. You're famous, too. I totally name-check you. Just letting you know, in case someone ever says, snottily, "Some ass in LA claims to know you. Her name is Allyson. Like someone like you would actually like, TALK to someone like her."

Speaking of, can you email me your addie? I absentmindedly tossed the box the jacket came in without writing it down!


deborah grabien - Oct 18, 2005 6:01:25 pm PDT #4608 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Ten bucks says Neil heads over at warp speed.

Now, if only I had the nerve to ping him and say hey, you probably do not remember me from a small black hole in the ozone layer, but we met at World Fantasy in 2002 - Siege of Beziers! Remember? - and also pal of Roz Kaveney's (memo to self, must ring Roz tomorrow), and, well, wanna come to a not quite Halloween thing in Minneapolis next Friday...?


Atropa - Oct 18, 2005 6:19:07 pm PDT #4609 of 10001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Just letting you know, in case someone ever says, snottily, "Some ass in LA claims to know you. Her name is Allyson. Like someone like you would actually like, TALK to someone like her."

Oh please. You're totally on my list of "People to import and keep forever and ever."

Speaking of, can you email me your addie? I absentmindedly tossed the box the jacket came in without writing it down!

Yes'm.