Wash: Well, I wash my hands of it. It's a hopeless case. I'll read a nice poem at the funeral. Something with imagery. Zoe: You could lock the door and keep the power-hungry maniac at bay. Wash: Oh, no, I'm starting to like this poetry idea now. Here lies my beloved Zoe, my autumn flower, somewhat less attractive now she's all corpsified and gross...

'Shindig'


The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Zenkitty - Sep 24, 2005 7:52:30 am PDT #4318 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Thanks, Ginger and connie.


deborah grabien - Sep 24, 2005 6:07:32 pm PDT #4319 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

I'm having a Moment, and I'm going to indulge myself. No meatspace names, please.

I've been taking a break from Cruel Sister; ahead of schedule, I treated myself by rereading Rock & Roll Never Forgets.

You know what?

I am so damned proud of the Kinkaid Chronicles. There is not one single thing about these books that doesn't make me proud.

I'm proud of these characters. I'm proud of their story, their life, their consistency. I'm proud that I can take the reader who's never been there backstage into rock and roll, without smearing it on one hand, or glorifying it on the other. I'm proud for the humanity of these people, that they live and die with their own selves and mistakes, the way we all do. I'm proud there are kickass stories going on.

I'm proud of being able to write Bree, annoying and too damned saintly sometimes and remarkably stupid about certain realities. I'm proud of being able to see her. I'm even prouder of having John Kinkaid finally figure out how to see her - it's what should have happened in the real world, and I doubt it did, for all the love and all the need and everything that did and didn't happen.

And I'm proudest of John Kinkaid, of his voice, of my ability to hold it and send it out into the universe, giving him voice again, giving him my own kind of life back, when I wasn't strong enough to stay with the original and help him keep the real thing. I'm proud of how clear he is, of that fact that my friends who knew the original inspiration recognise him with no effort at all in these books, recognise his inertia, his perfect honest unconscious charm, his essential kindness, his emotional laziness, his complete lack of malice, his illness, his fragility, his musical brilliance as hot as a meteor shower.

I wrote them as a kind of therapy, but they're a whole lot more than that, and a whole lot better than that.

I'm proud of these books. They ought to be on shelves. They're so readable, it's ridiculous.


erikaj - Sep 24, 2005 6:22:24 pm PDT #4320 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

I'm glad you're proud...I would be, if they were mine.(Of course, they couldn't be.) There are parts of my work that made me do that, but not the whole thing yet.


deborah grabien - Sep 24, 2005 6:33:20 pm PDT #4321 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

It's - weird. I've had books sniffed at for major awards, published around the world, yada yada.

None of them ever brought this up in me, at all. These are a whole new deal for me.


Amy - Sep 24, 2005 7:06:53 pm PDT #4322 of 10001
Because books.

Deb, you should be enormously proud, both of what you accomplished and the stories and characters you brought to life. Good on you for recognizing it.

And a big old "yes ma'am" to the "they're so readable, it's ridiculous" thing. My feelings exactly.


SailAweigh - Sep 24, 2005 8:16:17 pm PDT #4323 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

And a big old "yes ma'am" to the "they're so readable, it's ridiculous" thing. My feelings exactly.

What AmyLiz said. I flew through those puppies and I. Want. More.


Beverly - Sep 24, 2005 8:35:29 pm PDT #4324 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

They are very likeable characters, and very readable stories. Very much worth being proud of.


P.M. Marc - Sep 24, 2005 11:25:41 pm PDT #4325 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Y'know, I sat down tonight and re-read the Rock and Roll for the first time since the post-partum fog (mine, not the bookwriting one, so as we're clear) lifted.

Previous to that, I'd been sorting things, and re-read the first few chapters of Eyes in the Fire.

It's weird to see the complete difference in voice, which is something I don't see when reading Eyes and then reading, say, Weaver--both of those are obviously the same writer, same voice. With rest-of-your-work and Kinkaid, if I didn't know they'd been written by the same person, I wouldn't have guessed. It's not a simple matter of using first person POV for Kinkaid--I've read things you've written in first person that are still very much in the voice seen in Eyes or Weaver.

Kinkaid's voice is far more powerful, more immediate. In some respects, comparing the two voices is apples and oranges, or leather jackets to tapestries.

I know you're not big on having things slotted into genre, so this is more for filing with info-for-your-agent: the first book--as I've only read the one--really had a lot in common, in terms of my reader response to it, with books I've read lately that have the word "suspense" printed on the spine.

Anyhow, yes, needs to be on shelves. Lots of them. Especially the ones at the supermarket that say, "Bestsellers: 20% off."


deborah grabien - Sep 25, 2005 6:47:40 am PDT #4326 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Plei, you are one majorly discerning woman, you know that?

And this, about the difference between the Chronicles and everything else I've written, is what I was hoping for. Because I did my damnedest to channel his voice, rather than imposing my own. That was the single most important thing I was aware of during that manic glorious 9-week explosion of two novels, 165,000 words, the books I wanted to write: keeping his voice clear, and there, and his.


P.M. Marc - Sep 25, 2005 7:43:48 am PDT #4327 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

You pulled it off for sure.