She ain't movin'. Serenity's not movin'.

Kaylee ,'Out Of Gas'


The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


SailAweigh - Aug 16, 2005 2:00:31 pm PDT #3623 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

So much passion and empty hands makes my keyboard like a liquored up prom date.

I really, really love this, erika. I'm here with my rum and coke and my date, too. I'm starting to think I should get one of those computers that talks to you.


erikaj - Aug 16, 2005 3:30:47 pm PDT #3624 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

It's beginning to bother me how often I speak of writing in sexual terms. No wonder almost everyone I've ever been hot for writes.


Allyson - Aug 17, 2005 7:58:11 pm PDT #3625 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Proposals blow. I don't know any dramatic anecdotes.


Allyson - Aug 17, 2005 9:20:16 pm PDT #3626 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Done and done!

Formal proposal including marketing ideas that make me sound like a one-woman professional firm are all off to agent.

Gah.

And thanks for the beta, deb. Good catches.


deborah grabien - Aug 17, 2005 10:45:12 pm PDT #3627 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Hell, I suck at marketing. I just beg my rowdy friends and well-connected daughter for help.

Although, once the Kinkaid Chronicles go to press, I'm going to have to swallow very hard and ping a few people I've been hiding from for thirty years.

Gah.

Allyson, they were pretty minor - mostly structure tweaks.

Having been a dutiful woman and worked on the "the cheque's in the post and you have a deadline, bitch!" book all afternoon, I've been writing the long-form synopsis for the second Kinkaid book all evening. That's While My Guitar Gently Weeps. I forget how spoiled I've been by having an editor who knows what I can do, so she doesn't want or need the standard stuff. The Kinkaid books are not going to be allowed near Minotaur, and that means I have to do the standard longer form synopses.

Luckily, I actually like doing the damned things. But I'm cross and cranky because I'm not used to being expected to do them.


Gus - Aug 18, 2005 2:56:05 am PDT #3628 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Ah, crap. The discussion drifted away from the issues related to drafting dialog that might match up with reader's expectations, right when I was hoping for a solution.


Fay - Aug 18, 2005 3:22:29 am PDT #3629 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

I'd try to rely on things like "go get me a couple cans of tuna from down cellar" or "don't touch them boxes neither" to get across the local flavor

blinks

Wow. Looks just like generic Northern UK English.

Bloody loved that, Erika. Gorgeous.


Lyra Jane - Aug 18, 2005 3:56:26 am PDT #3630 of 10001
Up with the sun

Looks just like generic Northern UK English.

It's funny how things like that line up. I've seen examples of Northern Irish dialect that look like Pittsburghese to me. There are probably similar parallels elsewhere as well.


Fay - Aug 18, 2005 5:59:35 am PDT #3631 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Weird synchronicity: so I'm still working on this original novel (albeit with much less speed than most of your good selves) and one of my main characters is about to go into a bar. The bar doesn't exist, but I've located it on Frith Street, in Soho, a few shops along from Jimmy's Greek Taverna; it's one of those places, inasmuchas people won't notice it unless they know it's there. (My book being all magical, and stuff, and this bar having, over the course of the past 24 hours, gradually become a sort of Callahan's Crazy Crosstime Salloon/Willy's Bar/Caritas kind of place, in my head.)

On a whim, and remembering that there was a site that did this, I went to check out what's really there.

As you'll discover, Bar Humbug, ladies and gentlemen, is located between the Offices of the Chinese chambers of commerce, and Little Italy.

Unfortunately it doesn't show up in photographs, and if you go to Soho you'll probably walk right past it without noticing it consciously, because of the nature of the glamour that's been cast on it. But it's there.

nods.

(...I think I may have to work in a visit to Garlic and Shots too. It being a vampire novel.)


erikaj - Aug 18, 2005 6:24:58 am PDT #3632 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

Thanks, Fay, I imagine you know whereof I speak, and in that instance I'm sorry about that...I hope I've not been all "The guy I love likes yuppiefied Danish Modern carrots from somebody else's garden"...although losing out to somebody with less of a "jobbette" might have helped my ego a bit, if not my heart. I'm working it out, but it's on my mind a lot.