Oh, lordy, the genre definition discussion. That's one I'm staying all the way out of.
That's insane troll logic!
Xander ,'Showtime'
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deborah grabien - Jul 07, 2005 10:24:57 am PDT #3065 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.
erikaj - Jul 07, 2005 10:28:44 am PDT #3066 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!
Jesse is right...a lot of times we do know the "who" and "how"...it's mostly seeing if the Mostly Good guys can stay ahead of the Mostly Bad guys.(because both sides usually have somebody who could fit in with the other crowd.) Look out for bad tippers and people that don't respect good music when they hear it...bad stuff happens to them. And Deb, you know I'm not doing that... not with an urban, noirish, feminist, "defective detective" novel with class issues and procedural overtones.
deborah grabien - Jul 07, 2005 10:38:35 am PDT #3067 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.
Heh. It's just a discussion I back out of the room for, these days, that classification thing. Not my deal.
erikaj - Jul 07, 2005 10:43:57 am PDT #3068 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!
I don't like that either...mostly because I suck at it. But I will say that GP can remind me style-wise of Lehane, but story-wise more like Elmore Leonard(who mostly doesn't whodunit either) "A Firing Offense" was, and should also be read by everyone who ever worked a crap retail job.
Lilty Cash - Jul 07, 2005 10:44:48 am PDT #3069 of 10001
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."
"A Firing Offense" was, and should also be read by everyone who ever worked a crap retail job.
Takes notes.
erikaj - Jul 07, 2005 10:52:51 am PDT #3070 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!
Part of what I liked about that book was the overwhelming tone of "When this is published, I'm so out of here!" that pervaded it. But I may be projecting... I do that, sometimes, being as how a good paragraph can be an occasion of sin sometimes and give me wicked crushes. And this really is "Pelecanos likes carrots." now. I should shut up.
SailAweigh - Jul 07, 2005 1:09:31 pm PDT #3071 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb
Definitely liking the drabbles that this topic prompted. When I first saw it I kinda said, "huh." And then I wrote two. Huh.
ETA: Susan, good job! I hit post before I remembered to say that. Oops.
erikaj - Jul 08, 2005 11:36:06 am PDT #3072 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!
Which is the better story?
My retired detective and his disabled operative find out that their partner/father did not really commit suicide. but was murdered for some reason I'll have to determine.
Or
He did, but they find out something pivotal about some last case that might have been nagging at him at the time of his death?
Anne W. - Jul 08, 2005 11:44:07 am PDT #3073 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.
erika, I like the second option better, esp. if your detectives were hoping to find out that the suicide was a murder but find the pivotal information instead.
Scrappy - Jul 08, 2005 11:45:04 am PDT #3074 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
How about they THINK it's suicide (and each feel guilty for their own reasons) for the first chunk of the book and so look into the nagging case--and then find out it was murder?