I walk. I talk. I shop, I sneeze. I'm gonna be a fireman when the floods roll back. There's trees in the desert since you moved out. And I don't sleep on a bed of bones.

Buffy ,'Chosen'


The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


deborah grabien - Jun 02, 2005 8:53:56 pm PDT #2484 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

I'm not opposed to bleeding on GP, mind you; just that this aint a slow drip, it's a fucking Victoria Falls. 36,000 drops of blood in two weeks.

Sorry. I'm a skosh punch-drunk.


Gris - Jun 02, 2005 9:03:50 pm PDT #2485 of 10001
Hey. New board.

I'm proofing a novel in progress that hit it's eighth chapter and 36,000th word yesterday, after 1 week and 5 days. And she took the whole weekend off.

People like you and she amaze me. I only dream of writing that quickly or well.


deborah grabien - Jun 02, 2005 9:12:55 pm PDT #2486 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Speed isn't a prerequisite to a novel - it's just that sometimes it happens that way. I wrote Plainsong in just under six weeks; I took that long just to write down impressions of the South of France and Greece, for And Then Put Out The Light.

You never know.


Gris - Jun 02, 2005 9:15:16 pm PDT #2487 of 10001
Hey. New board.

Oh, I know. It's just frustrating sometimes, for me, because I tend to get novel-length, ambitious ideas combined with short-story-length attention span.

Remember that one super-ambitious Willow/Tara fic I was writing that one time, long ago? You probably don't, though you were very helpful with it. Anyway, yeah. I lost my attention on that one so bad that I think I've deleted it. I went back and tried to look at it the other day and it's poof-gone.


deborah grabien - Jun 02, 2005 9:24:50 pm PDT #2488 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

I do remember it, actually.

The whole point about fiction, for me, is having something to say. It isn't necessarily the Grand Issues, although the WIP is: loyalty, and the desire to protect, and how those human traits that very often are defined or assumed to be positives can be extremely negative, and destroy.

I just think, if there's a story, a writer tells it. A fiction writer, anyway.


Susan W. - Jun 02, 2005 9:42:57 pm PDT #2489 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I just summarized my contest feedback for my online critique group, and realized my low-scoring judge was actually the one who had the nicest things to say about my work. She loved my voice, thought I was brilliant at characterization, praised my ability to weave in historical detail and backstory without slowing the story, etc. She said the story didn't "grab" her, but she apologized for it!

Oy vey.

Of course, I'm probably the exact opposite as a judge. Since I know for a fact I'm more persnickety than most, especially WRT grammar/usage and historical accuracy, I often give a higher score than I think is absolutely warranted because I don't want to be the Hardass Judge from Hell. But then I go ahead and comment on whatever I think needs work, because I figure that's helping them get their book into publishable condition.


deborah grabien - Jun 04, 2005 7:56:51 am PDT #2490 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Quiet in here.

A question/scenario:

Say you're not a doctor, and someone in their third or fourth day of cold turkey heroin withdrawal begs you for help. What is there, among either OTC or commonly prescribed prescription drugs, to at least ease the horrors? I found one site that actually said neurontin helped with easing the skin-crawly stuff junkies get during withdrawal, and I can see that making sense, since it's one in the seemingly endless array of epilepsy anti-seizure drugs. But googling gets me into a depressing tangle of info I can't sort out.


Amy - Jun 04, 2005 8:07:07 am PDT #2491 of 10001
Because books.

Say you're not a doctor, and someone in their third or fourth day of cold turkey heroin withdrawal begs you for help.

If the person isn't a doctor, though, where would he/she get any prescription drug to help?

I can't imagine what I would do in that situation, aside from googling and maybe calling a pharmacist, if I didn't want to call a doctor. And the usual sit-by-the-bed vigil, with blankets or water or a warm cloth or whatever I thought would ease the suffering just a little bit.


deborah grabien - Jun 04, 2005 8:14:25 am PDT #2492 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Amy, I did it myself, and what I chiefly remember from 30 plus years ago was precisely that: holding on to him, and talking - a low soothing voice, despite wanting to scream and sob and smash things.

I'm not looking for a heroin substitute; I want something that might be readily available in a medicine cabinet to ease some of the worst symptoms. And these days, it seems as if the class of anti-spasmodic drugs out there to control epileptic seizures are very widely prescribed for other things. Hell, I have two full bottles of Neurontin in my own medicine cabinet, for the MS pain control.

Just wondered if there were any other drugs out there. Also, what about traditional pain killers? Would something like percocet be useful for a junkie deep into withdrawal? At least to calm them?


Steph L. - Jun 04, 2005 8:16:58 am PDT #2493 of 10001
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

Also, what about traditional pain killers? Would something like percocet be useful for a junkie deep into withdrawal? At least to calm them?

Well, it is an opiate, so I'd think it could help. Given that my withdrawal problems were *from* percocet and not heroin, I can't be sure, but that's my best guess. Let me get some coffee in me and I'll google.