Yes, it's terribly simple. The good guys are always stalwart and true, the bad guys are easily distinguished by their pointy horns or black hats, and, uh, we always defeat them and save the day. No one ever dies, and everybody lives happily ever after.

Giles ,'Conversations with Dead People'


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SailAweigh - Feb 26, 2005 8:36:20 am PST #232 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

both here and in my livenjournal, it might count as "prior publishing"

Hmmm, that is a good question. Since the internets are pretty much public domain, anything ever put on it could be considered priorly published. In my head, though, I think of "published" as having taken money for it. Kind of like the difference between amateur and professional in sports.


deborah grabien - Feb 26, 2005 8:51:13 am PST #233 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

The net publishing area is extremely grey, and the courts (so far as I know) have yet to hand down definitive rulings on what constitutes "already published" in the electronic media. So, at the moment, it's very much in the lap of the individual publisher.

Definitely something to think about. Because I'd love to get a story up there.


sumi - Feb 26, 2005 2:18:29 pm PST #234 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

erikaj -- I imagine that they leave the crime scene tape up until the c.s.i.s have processed the scene.


erikaj - Feb 26, 2005 2:26:31 pm PST #235 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

That could take a while then, couldn't it? Although I don't expect they have to wait for the labs and junk, being as how they take the lab-worthy stuff away.ETA: Eh, I've probably contaminated a lot of the scene by having my intrepid witness' stomach be less than intrepid upon discovering the battered body of the vic. I thought to have her not fall apart in some way would be Mary Sue-ish.


Deena - Feb 27, 2005 7:01:10 am PST #236 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

Erika, that's a tried and true method. I believe one of the things the other characters used to twit Anita Blake for was that she supposedly threw up on a body one of her first times on the scene.


erikaj - Feb 27, 2005 8:16:37 am PST #237 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

Giardello was "Gee" because that was what he said on his first murder. Twenty-five years later, still Gee.Yeah, I figured, unlike me, she could hold back the tears and verbalizing, but we both have traitor stomachs. Otherwise, SuperCrip, ugh. (Let's hope I can restrain myself from giving her ardeur, shall we? So far I'm safe. She's hot for a married man that won't leave his wife, and her crazymaking client.)


deborah grabien - Feb 27, 2005 11:38:17 am PST #238 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

erika, why aren't you ringing up the PR section of the Phoenx PD and asking these questions?

San Francisco and London can't be the only urban centres whose police have people delighted to share that information, surely?


erikaj - Feb 27, 2005 11:44:23 am PST #239 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

It will probably be easier now that I have more specific questions.(Being that I was unwilling to actually kill to get face time.) I should track that down Monday. I think I ran into "Is anyone dead? Then she's not ours." But PIO's are *supposed* to answer stupid questions, uh, I mean "sincere inquiries from the public."


deborah grabien - Feb 27, 2005 9:08:56 pm PST #240 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

What I did was, I called the main number and asked for "community relations" or whatnot. I explained that I was a writer, with some specific questions about a) how homicides were handled, b) who handled them, and c) some verisimilitude questions, such as jargon and slang.

I ended up with Lieutenant Jerry McCarthy, and also with a visit to forensic pathology (I discovered I was cool with the bits in the jars, although the dead guy on the slab with the toe tag didn't thrill me much) and a drivearound.

This was for Still Life With Devils.


erikaj - Feb 28, 2005 4:16:36 am PST #241 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

But you have also never sounded awkward a day in your life, and I do all the time. And I have no credits that would make anybody think I was anything other than some Emma Zoole death groupie. Still I suspect there is no way around it.Not responsibly anyway...I just wanted to not hold up the writing, but... Could be worse, I am better to talk to than some whack-job who confesses to everything. Slightly.