Right, what's a little sweater sniffing between sworn enemies?

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The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Connie Neil - Feb 23, 2005 2:11:50 pm PST #210 of 10001
brillig

Just saw a news bit saying that half the remains from 9/11 can't be identified with current technology. I've always thought it was an incredible opportunity for someone who thought that way to decide to disappear. Somebody who was already bummed, worked in the Towers, maybe got out, maybe was dawdling on the way to work.

Writer's brain is a scary, cynical place.


§ ita § - Feb 23, 2005 2:13:36 pm PST #211 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I've always thought it was an incredible opportunity for someone who thought that way to decide to disappear.

I've seen it both ways on TV -- both to cover up disappearing, and to cover up an unrelated death.


deborah grabien - Feb 23, 2005 2:23:13 pm PST #212 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

That's a major plot point in Get Shorty: the gambler who misses his plane, watches it crash on takeoff, and tries to use that as a way to get out of the clutches of the mob boss he's in debt to.


Amy - Feb 23, 2005 2:23:29 pm PST #213 of 10001
Because books.

Writer's brain is a scary, cynical place.

I heard that report this morning, and I thought the same thing. Great minds...


Connie Neil - Feb 23, 2005 2:25:40 pm PST #214 of 10001
brillig

I occasionally have moral crises that while other people are going, "Oh, the poor families," I'm going, "I can use that."


deborah grabien - Feb 23, 2005 2:27:58 pm PST #215 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

I occasionally have moral crises that while other people are going, "Oh, the poor families," I'm going, "I can use that."

That's not a moral crisis. It's just writers' mind at work. I don't think I've ever met a writer who didn't react that way, even as we may be condemning ourselves for being heartless.


Connie Neil - Feb 23, 2005 2:30:21 pm PST #216 of 10001
brillig

I caught myself taking mental notes at my own father's funeral on how various relatives were reacting, but I figured Daddy wouldn't have minded. He'd have been snarking right next to me, if he could have seeni t.


deborah grabien - Feb 23, 2005 2:34:58 pm PST #217 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Mine usually kicks in after whatever the event is, rather than during; all I remember during my mother's actual funeral in New York in mid-February was how fucking COLD it was (wind chill factor made it just below zero). But afterwards, things began coming clearer, in a very writery poetic sense: how hard the ground had been, the way there was almost an echo underfoot and was that due to the frozen earth itself, or to the catacomb effect of all those holes in the ground, and the colour of the sky, all compact of how I define winter.

For me, it's more as if the event is for absorption and the aftermath is for effective channeling.


Connie Neil - Feb 23, 2005 2:54:10 pm PST #218 of 10001
brillig

as if the event is for absorption

I call it "recorder mode", when I'm not so much thinking but simply sucking in all the sensory information possible. I did that a lot on my first trip to New York, where I'd stand on corners and just ... absorb.


deborah grabien - Feb 23, 2005 3:06:11 pm PST #219 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Yep. Sometimes I can do both - if the situation is less personal and less emotional and more purely visceral, I can absorb and record at the same time. Somewhere in this house there should be a notebook containing seventeen handwritten pages, the sensory basis for the second half of And Then Put Out The Light. There are freeform nonstop do not pause for breath notes on everything from the polyglot chatter going on around me to the stones-not-sand freel of the beach to the way the light moved on both the Med to the south and the hills to the northeast.

Mostly, though, it's a two step process, at least. Absorb, then channel.