Damn it! You know what? I'm sick of this crap. I'm sick of being the guy who eats insects and gets the funny syphilis. As of this moment, it's over. I'm finished being everybody's butt monkey!

Xander ,'Lessons'


The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Allyson - May 06, 2005 3:38:24 pm PDT #1844 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I'm having issues.

Everyone who has read Safe Harbor from Ann Arbor (the story of ita and I cohabitating) says, "I love this, it's too short."

I feel like lengthening it, getting into the personal stuff of it is a violation of ita's privacy, more than I'm comfortable with.

I'm not sure where to go with it, but when everyone gives that exact same feedback, I have to find some way to elaborate.


deborah grabien - May 06, 2005 3:48:55 pm PDT #1845 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Allyson, I don't remember - is that one the inaurgural essay in the book?


Allyson - May 06, 2005 3:51:43 pm PDT #1846 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Nope, I think the inaugural is going to be the title essay.


deborah grabien - May 06, 2005 3:53:40 pm PDT #1847 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Then, yes, it may want to be a bit longer. I know it was the first one I got to read, but that didn't mean you were leading off the book with it.

Hmmmm. May I reread, please?


Allyson - May 06, 2005 3:56:16 pm PDT #1848 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Oh sure! Love to send.


deborah grabien - May 06, 2005 4:00:39 pm PDT #1849 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Yes, please - because from what I remember of it, in terms of how it's structured, I think it can be expanded not only without stepping on ita's space, but in a way that's both fluff-free and relevant to the rest of the book.


Amy - May 06, 2005 4:00:45 pm PDT #1850 of 10001
Because books.

Whoa, Deb. Those last two lines pack a huge punch.

I'm having issues.

Allyson, what about comparing what it's like to go from talking about Buffy, let's say (metaphors, writing, characterization -- *big* kind of vague stuff), to talking about who used the last of the tampons, or whatever?

Also, personal essays don't have to be up to AP standards. If a real person you want to write about loved chocolate and purple sweaters, you can make that Twizzlers and red skirts in your piece.


§ ita § - May 06, 2005 4:18:35 pm PDT #1851 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

THERE WILL BE NO TWIZZLERS!!

Allyson -- why don't you see what you want to write, and I'll see if any of the bits of my life make me feel oogie.


deborah grabien - May 06, 2005 4:21:51 pm PDT #1852 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

ita, one of the things I wanted to look at in that one particular essay was how Allyson herself - her own presence in that one piece - felt against a few of the others. In her piece about Tim, for instance, she was so beautifully present, just so there, that it knit everything together. I'm wondering if a bit of that might not be what's needed for your piece.

What are Twizzlers? Are those those braided things that taste like stale sugary Pernod?


Susan W. - May 06, 2005 4:27:52 pm PDT #1853 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Deb, I think that's among my favorites of your drabbles, ever.

t nods sagely at all the advice to Allyson