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The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Allyson - May 06, 2005 3:38:24 pm PDT #1844 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I'm having issues.

Everyone who has read Safe Harbor from Ann Arbor (the story of ita and I cohabitating) says, "I love this, it's too short."

I feel like lengthening it, getting into the personal stuff of it is a violation of ita's privacy, more than I'm comfortable with.

I'm not sure where to go with it, but when everyone gives that exact same feedback, I have to find some way to elaborate.


deborah grabien - May 06, 2005 3:48:55 pm PDT #1845 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Allyson, I don't remember - is that one the inaurgural essay in the book?


Allyson - May 06, 2005 3:51:43 pm PDT #1846 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Nope, I think the inaugural is going to be the title essay.


deborah grabien - May 06, 2005 3:53:40 pm PDT #1847 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Then, yes, it may want to be a bit longer. I know it was the first one I got to read, but that didn't mean you were leading off the book with it.

Hmmmm. May I reread, please?


Allyson - May 06, 2005 3:56:16 pm PDT #1848 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Oh sure! Love to send.


deborah grabien - May 06, 2005 4:00:39 pm PDT #1849 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Yes, please - because from what I remember of it, in terms of how it's structured, I think it can be expanded not only without stepping on ita's space, but in a way that's both fluff-free and relevant to the rest of the book.


Amy - May 06, 2005 4:00:45 pm PDT #1850 of 10001
Because books.

Whoa, Deb. Those last two lines pack a huge punch.

I'm having issues.

Allyson, what about comparing what it's like to go from talking about Buffy, let's say (metaphors, writing, characterization -- *big* kind of vague stuff), to talking about who used the last of the tampons, or whatever?

Also, personal essays don't have to be up to AP standards. If a real person you want to write about loved chocolate and purple sweaters, you can make that Twizzlers and red skirts in your piece.


§ ita § - May 06, 2005 4:18:35 pm PDT #1851 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

THERE WILL BE NO TWIZZLERS!!

Allyson -- why don't you see what you want to write, and I'll see if any of the bits of my life make me feel oogie.


deborah grabien - May 06, 2005 4:21:51 pm PDT #1852 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

ita, one of the things I wanted to look at in that one particular essay was how Allyson herself - her own presence in that one piece - felt against a few of the others. In her piece about Tim, for instance, she was so beautifully present, just so there, that it knit everything together. I'm wondering if a bit of that might not be what's needed for your piece.

What are Twizzlers? Are those those braided things that taste like stale sugary Pernod?


Susan W. - May 06, 2005 4:27:52 pm PDT #1853 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Deb, I think that's among my favorites of your drabbles, ever.

t nods sagely at all the advice to Allyson