We can come by between classes. Usually I use that time to copy over my class notes with a system of different colored pens. But it's been pointed out to me that that's, you know...insane.

Willow ,'Showtime'


The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Topic!Cindy - May 03, 2005 8:56:53 am PDT #1712 of 10001
What is even happening?

See, I have no idea whether my eyes are expressive or not...
I can't imagine that they're not. I only know you online and the phone, but it seems to be you are an expression delivery mechanism. I meant that in the best way. There's a particular life to you--a vividness that manages to come across, even at a distance. I suspect that in person, you could kindle a fire with a glance.


Jesse - May 03, 2005 8:57:51 am PDT #1713 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

How do people make expressions, if not with their eyes? That's jackass. (She said, rolling her expressive eyeballs....)


Connie Neil - May 03, 2005 8:59:18 am PDT #1714 of 10001
brillig

rolling her expressive eyeballs....

Come on, 7! Baby needs shoes!


Topic!Cindy - May 03, 2005 9:00:51 am PDT #1715 of 10001
What is even happening?

snake eyes!


Scrappy - May 03, 2005 9:03:26 am PDT #1716 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

The Serial Killer italic flashback. Don't hold my fingers over the stove, Mommy. But Mommy always did. To purify Roger's flesh. Roger hated Mommy

This is hilarious.


erikaj - May 03, 2005 9:19:00 am PDT #1717 of 10001
I'm a fucking amazing catch!--Fiona Gallagher, Shameless(US)

It's funny cause it's true, Robin. Sadly. It's getting so I never want to read *anything* about that, between the dime-store psych and overused Catholic iconography...it's still weird to think "Bor-ring." at a time like that, though. But I'm picky now and less likely to accept airport paperbacks than I was BDS(Before David Simon)


deborah grabien - May 03, 2005 9:25:25 am PDT #1718 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

How do people make expressions, if not with their eyes? That's jackass. (She said, rolling her expressive eyeballs....)

Ah, but when you're rolling your eyes? Think about what the rest of yourt facial muscles are doing, and whether holding every other muscle in your face perfectly still, while simply moving your eyeballs around, would convey anything other than a sort of fascinated "whoa..." reaction in those around you.

Her dislike of it, so far as I understand it, is due to writers using the eyes to express the, er, gamut of emotions, without the rest of their face and body coming into play: that the eyes, all by themselves, show everything. On that level, I'm sort of with her, because they don't, not alone. She hates phrases like "I could see the love in his/her eyes." No, you could not, writer person. You could see the corneas in his/her eyes.


Susan W. - May 03, 2005 9:31:17 am PDT #1719 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Eeeeee! Someone just got back from the Romantic Times convention and reports the following from the editor panels:

Other houses are looking for non-traditional settings and eras, like the Napoleonic Wars (but NOT as a traditional regency -- set it in France, say, and have the hero go to war).

Fuck yeah! t pumps fist

I emailed to ask which "other houses" those were. Need to know where to send this baby first once it's done.

Must write faster......


§ ita § - May 03, 2005 9:39:52 am PDT #1720 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

"I could see the love in his/her eyes."

But you can see sadness, right? Remnants of exhaustion, evasiveness, and indications of sexual readiness (isn't that evocative phrasing) can all be indicated right there from the eyeball on out, without facial muscles being required (although they certainly can contribute).


deborah grabien - May 03, 2005 9:44:06 am PDT #1721 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

But you can see sadness, right? Remnants of exhaustion, evasiveness, and indications of sexual readiness (isn't that evocative phrasing) can all be indicated right there from the eyeball on out, without facial muscles being required (although they certainly can contribute).

Yes. But her point is, the eyeballs themselves are not magical receptors or receptacles for love, sadness, etc; what you're seeing is a concerted effect that comes from muscle usage.

Her dislike is aimed squarely at the idea that someone's eyeballs can express love or hate or desire, just by being there.

I disagree on the sexual desire thing, hugely. I've been told that my eyes change colour slightly under those circs; they go from muddy green to very bright green.