My god...he's gonna do the whole speech.

Buffy ,'Chosen'


The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


deborah grabien - Apr 27, 2005 9:35:37 am PDT #1419 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

(dying over ita's)

Oh, yes indeedy.

I love the complete tease of that "watching him opaquely." I love a good adverb and I get really pissed at adverb nazis; used properly, as you just did, they're stone cold gorgeous. I love that the word brought up multiple visuals in my head, mutiple possibilities, for that opaque-looking. Are her eyes clouded, is it dark, are her motives hidden, and on and on...

I love that you respect the reader enough to let her/him draw that picture in his/her own head.

edited for clarity: the adverbs are gorgeous, not the adverb-haters.


Connie Neil - Apr 27, 2005 9:41:51 am PDT #1420 of 10001
brillig

Ok, I got a good "Awww" out of that. Holding his shirt hostage. (I'd have ended it with the head shake, but that's me.)


Topic!Cindy - Apr 27, 2005 9:44:47 am PDT #1421 of 10001
What is even happening?

ita! You made a bunch of word pictures in my head.


Beverly - Apr 27, 2005 10:02:22 am PDT #1422 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I think ita is one of the most sensuous writers in this thread. Maybe ever. When she writes, I get that it's cold, or warm, cloudy, sunny, dark, I taste the fruit she mentions, feel the blood trickle, air strike a new cut, feel the ache of a bruise.

Of course, these things are important to me. I try to write with them in mind. It's just a joy to find them in someone else's work.


deborah grabien - Apr 27, 2005 10:04:17 am PDT #1423 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

I try to write with them in mind.

Heh. I try to write with them somewhere between my groin and the pit of my stomach.


Beverly - Apr 27, 2005 10:07:38 am PDT #1424 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I try to write with them somewhere between my groin and the pit of my stomach.

Well, that too.


Amy - Apr 27, 2005 10:25:24 am PDT #1425 of 10001
Because books.

I think ita is one of the most sensuous writers in this thread.

Oh, very much so. I don't think she's ever written a drabble that hasn't hit me right in the gut.

But there's definitely a school of romance writing popular in judging circles that insists that the hero and heroine be in direct conflict with each other, and that the conflict must be spelled out right from the beginning.

I didn't go to that school. And I'm all for sublety. If some of the conflicts in romances played out in real life... Well, life usually doesn't work that way, is all I'm saying.

And that senses thing? You need to write what works for a given scene. Every single sentence on every single page doesn't require the use of all five senses -- just the ones that convey tone and meaning best.

Ignore me. Contest judging made me cranky in the extreme.


deborah grabien - Apr 27, 2005 10:28:03 am PDT #1426 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

offers Amy soothing yummy food to ease crankitude

BTW, you may be getting or may have already got an email from Vortex - she has an urgent situation, concerning an industry question. I forwarded it to my agent but that could take days for Jenn to get to, and I suggested she email you.


Amy - Apr 27, 2005 10:34:47 am PDT #1427 of 10001
Because books.

you may be getting or may have already got an email from Vortex

No problem. I'll look for it. And thank you for the yummy food. I'm imagining they're peanut butter death bombs, by the way.

Off to keep plugging on the book that's already late...


Susan W. - Apr 27, 2005 10:53:40 am PDT #1428 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I love a good adverb and I get really pissed at adverb nazis; used properly, as you just did, they're stone cold gorgeous.

Yep. I know that they're often used improperly by beginning writers, but the adverb nazis are like people who'd take the toepicks off Michelle Kwan's skates because beginning skaters are too prone to use them as brakes.

I didn't go to that school. And I'm all for sublety. If some of the conflicts in romances played out in real life... Well, life usually doesn't work that way, is all I'm saying.

Wrod. And often the conflicts/setups just seem so forced and contrived that I have no patience with them.

And while I know you can't have a story without conflict, and there has to be something keeping the hero and heroine from reaching resolution on page 10 rather than page 350, I always make my protagonists like each other as well want each other. Partly that's because I like reading about friends and allies working together against the story's opposing forces, and partly because I find it a lot easier to believe the happily ever after if the hero and heroine like each other and work well together.