Lorne: Snakes? Uh-huh. And they came out of your what? Okay. Okay, well, did they get up there themselves or is this part of a, you know, a thing? No, I'm not judging...Do we fight snakes? Angel: Only if they're giant. Or demons. Or giant demons. Are they giant demon snakes? Lorne: Well, unless this guy's 30 feet tall, I'm thinking they're of the garden variety.

'Lineage'


The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


deborah grabien - Apr 24, 2005 5:28:07 pm PDT #1330 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

I am way pleased. I not only sorted out a humongous amount of research materials on the palace of Placentia (aka the Palace of Greenwich), I wrote some on Cruel Sister. If Minotaur declines the rest of the series, I may be writing into a void, but hell, the book wants to be written and that's what I'm going to do. It's at 10,000 words right now.

And, having discovered that I can write fiction and lyrics at the same time, I wrote the music for the song lyrics I posted.

So I feel all virtuous and shit.


sj - Apr 24, 2005 5:54:59 pm PDT #1331 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Go, Deb! That sounds like quite a productive day.


deborah grabien - Apr 24, 2005 6:47:12 pm PDT #1332 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Yes, indeed. I'm now greedily eyeing the Studiomaster head and Fender amp it's plugged into, and my vintage Gibson electrics, so very very close...


Liese S. - Apr 24, 2005 8:05:28 pm PDT #1333 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Oh, deb. I'm so glad you're songwriting again.

It's a lovely set of lyrics. It has all the elements I love in a song -- the wordplay, the rhythmic groove, the passionate truth. It's great.

I fell off my songwriting wave. I was surfing the crest for quite a while, it just kept coming. But then I got busy and preoccupied. I'm on the road again, for a two week stretch this time, so I ought to set aside some time to work on it since I'll have a ton of downtime. I have some rough mixing to do for our boys' recording project, but they only got through instrumentals on two or three tunes, so it won't take me that long. I should definitely make some time to be creative this week.

Plus, I've got to rehearse my bass duet. If the SO's tendinitis clears up in time, we've got to get that ready for June.

Huh. I digressed.

Anyway, it's a gorgeous song, and I'm glad you're back in it.


Beverly - Apr 24, 2005 8:10:04 pm PDT #1334 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Deb I love the way you segue: from writing to gourmet chef, and back to writing and now all the way back to songwriting. A Renaisance woman!

There are only eight notes in the scale. Anyone who composes music has me in awe, more than painters or sculptors or even writers. How can you take eight notes and, with all the melodies in the world that are already written, come up with something new? It's operating in a dimension I can only witness from outside it.


Susan W. - Apr 24, 2005 8:54:26 pm PDT #1335 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Anyone who composes music has me in awe, more than painters or sculptors or even writers.

Likewise. There are few things I love more than performing music, but I can't compose, and the closest I can come to even improvising is making up a harmony line, and I'm not even all that good at that--I do better at executing what's written. So I'm in awe of anyone whose brain has that gear.


deborah grabien - Apr 24, 2005 8:55:48 pm PDT #1336 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Bev, you're asking the wrong person. I can't deconstruct how I make music any better than I can deconstruct how I write words - less, in fact.

There's a story, and in this instance, there's a melody. Looking at those lyrics, had they been written by anyone else, I would probably have assumed a haunting melody line, an Arabian scale or tritones or at least a lot of minor chords. But no - it's rather uptempo (Liese, think Uncle John's Band in rhythm and speed, and the only minor, from the G basic to the E minor, is almost triumphant, definitely not mournful).

I don't know how to not do this stuff. I can't read a note of music - my father refused to have me taught - but I can play and write it.

Need is very freaky stuff.


Beverly - Apr 25, 2005 7:14:34 am PDT #1337 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I don't know how to not do this stuff.

Sorry, I wasn't clear. I wasn't actually asking how *you* compose. I was expressing awe that anyone can, and does do this thing that seems like magic to me. Moreso than other art forms.

I think visually, and I can comprehend how to draw, and paint, and sculpt, even if I can't do those things myself. I have written, and I understand what that process feels like. I studied piano for eight years with a bad, incompetent teacher, so that works out to more like, maybe, two years, total, and I've always sung, solo, in duets, trios, sextets, or chorus. I've sung soprano, alto, tenor parts, and I read enough music to know whether to go up or down on the line (see above, bad teacher). I can follow a melody line having heard it once, and I'm fairly good at finding or inventing a harmony or descant line.

But I can't make original music. I can't hear it in my head, I can't make it up, no matter how I try. And I'm in awe of people who can and do.


deborah grabien - Apr 25, 2005 7:17:49 am PDT #1338 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

And I suck at interpretation, so it evens out. If I love a song, I can play it and do it my way and filter it. But I can't sit down and "play it the way Chopin wrote it", or whatever. The technical part of me turns itself off and locks itself up into a box.

In the days when I had full use of my fingers, I played quite a few instruments (most of them patchily), but I was a damned good banjo player. I used to warm up with "Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring" because it's complex and tricksy and moves around. But it would never have been something I tried to interpret. Listening to it, it soars and dances in my spirit - playing it, it just became notes.

Creativity is weird stuff.


erikaj - Apr 25, 2005 7:20:34 am PDT #1339 of 10001
I'm a fucking amazing catch!--Fiona Gallagher, Shameless(US)

I've got a decent singing voice, but that is my only musical contribution...and even that, I waste trying to imitate Aretha and Janis(wisely in front of the dog)