Can't even shout, Can't even cry. The Gentlemen are coming by. Looking in windows, knocking on doors. They need to take seven, and they might take yours. Can't call to mom, can't say a word. You're gonna die screaming but you won't be heard.

Dream Girl ,'Bring On The Night'


The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


deborah grabien - Apr 18, 2005 11:58:56 am PDT #1207 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

hides drabbles from Deb

No, no, not in drabbles - with a 100-word discipline imposed, I'm all about the fragments.

I meant in 96 bazillion word novels. Something like:

I crawled down the stairs. It was night. Dark. Chilly. I crawled. Those damned stairs.

Alas. My hands itch for a red pen, which would then write "Why is this continuing thought split into three different sentences???"

I think in semicolons and italics. It's bad.

So do I; and it is not bad!


Liese S. - Apr 18, 2005 11:59:46 am PDT #1208 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I think I'm terrible at all the rules basics of the craft. I know I need to pay more attention to it, but I just don't. Blargh.


deborah grabien - Apr 18, 2005 12:02:11 pm PDT #1209 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

And yet somehow, Liese, I always remember what you've written...


Liese S. - Apr 18, 2005 12:11:08 pm PDT #1210 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Well, thanks, deb. That's nice of you to say.


deborah grabien - Apr 18, 2005 12:23:00 pm PDT #1211 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Don't know about nice - it's true, though. The scenes are very clear in my head for a good long while after I've read one of yours.


SailAweigh - Apr 18, 2005 12:56:02 pm PDT #1212 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I thought I'd try fanfic today. Something from Neil Gaiman's Sandmanverse.

Perfection Discovered

Replacing the nail file in the purse, a glance at the check book reveals that the month’s paycheck won’t cover both rent and car payment. She wasn’t good enough this month. Not smart enough, not strong enough, not perfect enough. So, tomorrow she’ll “find” a little in this account and a little more in that one to help. And in the bathroom it was only a little help, today. A little sniff here, a small snort there. Perfection in the right powder, cut with a nail file and liberally applied. Behind the mask, within the mirror, Despair wails and bleeds.


Susan W. - Apr 18, 2005 1:53:42 pm PDT #1213 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Heh. Susan, I'm a Fragment Nazi. They drive me batshit; it's a quirk. I'll leap on an overuse of those long before I'll check the proper placement of commas.

While I'm a Comma Nazi. I've seen so many contest entries and writing class submissions with commas everywhere they shouldn't be and nowhere they should, and that drives me batshit. Especially breathless run-on sentences that would be just fine with a comma or two properly placed.

I crawled down the stairs. It was night. Dark. Chilly. I crawled. Those damned stairs.

Yeah, I've certainly seen fragments abused as a cheap way to create suspense or speed pacing. But I still like using them in moderation.

I think I'm terrible at all the rules basics of the craft.

No, you're not.

Thanks for letting me vent. For the record, I'm only this much of a perfectionist over things that are being submitted, and I think of contest entries as a sort of dry run for submission, especially since finaling gets you in front of an editor or agent judge. And I get annoyed at having to wade through prose so grammatically flawed that I keep having to read sentences two and three times to have any idea what the writer is driving at. Fortunately, those entries are the exception rather than the rule, or I'd quit judging out of sheer frustration.


Anne W. - Apr 18, 2005 2:25:32 pm PDT #1214 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I'll use fragments a lot when writing dialogue, since it's how some people speak.

As for punctuation, I may have a bit of an addiction to the em dash.


erikaj - Apr 18, 2005 2:27:44 pm PDT #1215 of 10001
I'm a fucking amazing catch!--Fiona Gallagher, Shameless(US)

I've been told(I have barely noticed myself) that I have a parenthesis(dependency)


Susan W. - Apr 18, 2005 2:29:04 pm PDT #1216 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

As for punctuation, I may have a bit of an addiction to the em dash.

Me too. First-round editing involves cutting my em dashes down to one per page. Final round includes seeing if I can weed it to one per scene or even chapter.