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Spike's Bitches 22: You've got Angel breath  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


lisah - Mar 15, 2005 9:36:15 am PST #6633 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

some of the rape scenarios were more stressful than anything we do normally.

It's pretty hardcore. One of the kinds of scenarios Model Mugging has is called a reversal. The muggee lies on the ground as if asleep in bed or on a beach or something and the attacker pins her. You have to go from being completely passive to effectively responding to the attack. In my level 1 graduation class I was lying down and the mugger got on top of me and started telling me to spread my legs and all kinds of nasty stuff. I only know this because I have a tape of the graduation. The whole time he was pinning me and spewin' the filth I was looking for an opening so I could begin to fight him. Which I found and took advantage of quickly. (By "he" I mean the character the puffy guy instructor was playing. The instructor wanted me to succeed in beating the crap out of him.)

Actually being the one who was attacked in that situation was actually much easier than watching myself on tape being attacked. Because during the attack I was focused on what I needed to do to get out of the situation--not responding to what he wanted me to do. What he wanted was for me to get so scared and freaked out by what he was saying that I would freeze and do nothing to defend myself.


Betsy HP - Mar 15, 2005 9:37:26 am PST #6634 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Jay entertained a packed house during a City Arts & Lectures appearance Thursday night, and hinted during an interview that he would love to bring his card-trick-themed "On the Stem" production to San Francisco. His favorite printer, Patrick Reagh, lives in the area, as does Persi Diaconis -- a Stanford statistics professor and sleight-of-hand icon with a career path as strange as Jay's.

t whimpers


lisah - Mar 15, 2005 9:37:44 am PST #6635 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

Ricky Jay is the coolest.

WHY isn't he on Deadwood this season?! I loved him and his character.


JohnSweden - Mar 15, 2005 9:38:44 am PST #6636 of 10001
I can't even.

We do have people that freeze when presented with yelling, usually because of a past history. But freezing at yelling is some of what we're trying to get them past, and it's hard to do without, well, yelling.

I get that. Freezing isn't my problem. Wanting to go to "end this - now" is. Of course, that's what you're teaching.

I ADORED getting asked up onstage at Ricky Jay's show and sitting at a table with him while he dealt a rigged poker game.

Wow. Ricky Jay is fantastic. That's so cool.


vw bug - Mar 15, 2005 9:39:11 am PST #6637 of 10001
Mostly lurking...

Totally jumping in to the conversation, but Besty or anybody, do you know if you can or should iron black-out lining?


§ ita § - Mar 15, 2005 9:40:14 am PST #6638 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think the key differences between the MM rape scenarios and the krav ones is the performer -- when I work with my partner, and s/he pins me down, there's a natural limit to how uncomfortable they're comfortable making me. So it stays pretty physical.

When we up the stress it's usually in standup scenarios -- having a gun held to my head while being showered with obscenities is terrifying, but ... different from the rape scenario. Less personal. Less dirty.


lisah - Mar 15, 2005 9:43:04 am PST #6639 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

when I work with my partner, and s/he pins me down, there's a natural limit to how uncomfortable they're comfortable making me.

I'd imagine. That's one of the reasons the MM organizations have such strict rules about relationships between instructors and students.


Betsy HP - Mar 15, 2005 9:44:31 am PST #6640 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Besty or anybody, do you know if you can or should iron black-out lining?

DON'T. It's rubberized/plasticized. Let the wrinkles steam out.


vw bug - Mar 15, 2005 9:46:34 am PST #6641 of 10001
Mostly lurking...

DON'T. It's rubberized/plasticized. Let the wrinkles steam out.

What do I do about my seams then?


§ ita § - Mar 15, 2005 9:46:36 am PST #6642 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That's one of the reasons the MM organizations have such strict rules about relationships between instructors and students.

That makes sense. However, we really have no such rules. I wonder how that will play out for us?

The main difference (perhaps only) between the MM and what we're going to do is that our defense techniques are different -- so the instructor/attackers receive the same training, we're just getting the students to ... you know, turn their heads towards the hand when being put in an arm bar, not towards the elbow.

But all the attacks will (necessarily) be by a trained person. It's going to be weird having someone I know pull that crap on me.

I can't wait.