Hey, man, where are my pants? I have my hippo dignity!

Oz ,'Bring On The Night'


Spike's Bitches 22: You've got Angel breath  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


DebetEsse - Feb 09, 2005 10:12:29 am PST #35 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I put some of the blame on "Paul" (I'm in the "those letters were so not all written by the same person" camp), who, as you get further into them, has some really not-nice things to say about women. He has helpful things to say on other topics, but, yeah, not handed-down-from-on-high, thanks.

I put more blame on Augustine. Creator of the idea of Original Sin, who had a long-term relationship (but not marriage), which could not possibly have been love, since they weren't married, and that's just how it works. He's my favorite to beat on.


Atropa - Feb 09, 2005 10:13:53 am PST #36 of 10001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

(Tangent, because I am waiting for the Sudden Editing Emergency to get to the stage where someone actually releases the files to me so they can be edited.)

Do I want this skirt? I think I do. I, of course, would wear it with something that covered my butt (because I have not just Issues, but Subscriptions), but I do really like it. It's so ruffly!


tommyrot - Feb 09, 2005 10:14:41 am PST #37 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Paul's the one who said, "Better to marry than to burn," right?


Deena - Feb 09, 2005 10:15:27 am PST #38 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

Jilli, yes, and that skirt needs you!


Topic!Cindy - Feb 09, 2005 10:15:32 am PST #39 of 10001
What is even happening?

That gives very little credit to "most people." Honestly? It strikes me as the kind of thing right-wingers are talking about when they say liberals are intolerant. I'm sure that's not how you meant it, but it is what comes across.
Heh. You're right! I can't help it if most people suck.
No, I'm really responding to the historical Christian attitude about sex. Which is extremely fucked up, and has caused tremendous damage. That is the whole of my 'plaint.
You're responding to one of the attitudes. It's no monolith, Hec. I was raised nearly fundie, and yet had no idea that some people were taught sex was bad (never mind that it was never presented to me that way), until I was in my twenties. Where did I learn it was sometimes presented as bad? I learned that at a Christian college, where exactly the opposite (that sex is great) was stressed. And for the most part, the purity movements are based on the same theory.

I'm just going to say what's on my mind, because I respect you too much to mutter every time I read one of your posts on this sort of topic. I love you and don't want to end up resenting the bandwidth you use. Your posts on religion usually read as extremely narrow minded, to an extent that stuns me, given what an open minded human you are, generally. I've spent the last however long (including the drive to pick up the kids) trying to word what Lyra said up above.


-t - Feb 09, 2005 10:19:07 am PST #40 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Love the skirt, Jilli.


beth b - Feb 09, 2005 10:21:18 am PST #41 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

you need that skirt, Jilli.


erikaj - Feb 09, 2005 10:22:56 am PST #42 of 10001
I'm a fucking amazing catch!--Fiona Gallagher, Shameless(US)

I guess I'm with Hec in the "Extreme Skeptic" corner.With the caveat that I do believe that there are people that mate like swans...pick each other out and never look back. But I think they are more unusual than usual and I believe I could die waiting if that was my standard. (Although lately, I could die waiting AGAIN, if I don't stop panting after Attached people.) And that would be a pity. And I'm inclined to find St. Paul a woman-hating bastard.


Atropa - Feb 09, 2005 10:23:10 am PST #43 of 10001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Jilli, yes, and that skirt needs you!

I'm thinking that next paycheck, I'm ordering it. Because it's not that expensive ($50 for a custom-made skirt, from a small goth clothing company? That's a steal, I tell you!), and she doesn't charge extra for larger sizes.

IOtangentyN, I am heading down the path of over-caffeinated. I've had two cups of coffee, a Feminax (which has 50mg of caffeine), and am now eating some of the nummy Black Cat chocolate that brenda sent me, which has bits of coffee bean in it. If someone doesn't release the emergency files to me soon, I will be incoherent and hyper.


Deena - Feb 09, 2005 10:26:17 am PST #44 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

Nick needs this coat. [link]