You know, I just... I woke up, and I looked in the mirror, and I thought, hey, what's with all the sin? I need to change. I'm... I'm dirty. I'm, I'm bad with the... sex and the envy and that, that loud music us kids listen to nowadays.

Buffy ,'Lessons'


Spike's Bitches 22: You've got Angel breath  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


P.M. Marc - Feb 09, 2005 1:45:56 pm PST #226 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

What ita said.


Beverly - Feb 09, 2005 1:58:07 pm PST #227 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I hate I've missed the meat of this discussion, but it was interesting catching up. On this however:

I think love is only good

I beg to differ. I can think of any number of ways when the only way an individual could feel and express what love is, to them, was harmful, even deadly, to the love object.


Beverly - Feb 09, 2005 2:00:46 pm PST #228 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Also, condolences and all kinds of drying-out-ma to libkitty and the library.


§ ita § - Feb 09, 2005 2:01:26 pm PST #229 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't believe anything is always good. Humans are too ... human for that. For a start, we can't always agree on the definition of "good."


Fay - Feb 09, 2005 2:02:22 pm PST #230 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Wow - REALLY enjoying this discussion, my lovelies. Although the whole Ash Wednesday detail is unfortunate (here it's Muslim New Year, fwiw) and I'm sorry I can't punctuate JZ.

My main thought? Other than largely being in the Camp o' Hecubus? Wow. America sounds to be well nigh as religious a country as Egypt. Coming from a secular country, it's all a bit astounding.

I'm fairly broad minded about most things, but I have real problems being broad minded about religion. To me, there's a stark difference between a person's relationship with God (and how they understand the universe to be wired together) and their religion. The former is about faith, the latter is about society. The former may be embedded in and shaped by the latter, but the latter is about a whole shitload of things that have very little to do with God.

Er. This is the tip of a large iceberg which I don't feel like exploring just now, but - yeah. Interesting discussion.

Also? Happy belated birthday, Lexine!


vw bug - Feb 09, 2005 2:03:14 pm PST #231 of 10001
Mostly lurking...

For a start, we can't always agree on the definition of "good."

And according to yesterday's NY Times Science section, we can't agree on the definition of "evil" either [link]


Betsy HP - Feb 09, 2005 2:07:36 pm PST #232 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Wow. America sounds to be well nigh as religious a country as Egypt.

Yup. It's one of the things that weird Europeans out about us.


Susan W. - Feb 09, 2005 2:10:34 pm PST #233 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Speaking of good, Annabel has been so good lately I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop. She's just...content. She sleeps well at night. She takes naps on a semi-regular schedule. She doesn't like it if we're out of sight for long, but she's perfectly happy to play in the playpen while I sit here at the computer and work and natter for half the day. She's suddenly gone low-maintenance, and it's weird.


Jen - Feb 09, 2005 2:13:01 pm PST #234 of 10001
love's a dream you enter though I shake and shake and shake you

Susan, how old is she now?

And do you have any pictures? I want a look at her sweet baby face.


Susan W. - Feb 09, 2005 2:16:37 pm PST #235 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

She's ten months as of Sunday. And getting so big! Earlier today she stood on her own for what had to be ten full seconds, albeit with a very wide stance and arms held out for balance.

Here's the most recent picture we have posted: [link]

I really need to take more pictures of her.