You know, I've saved lives. Dozens. Maybe hundreds. I reattached a girl's leg. Her whole leg. She named her hamster after me. I got a hamster. He drops a box of money, he gets a town.

Simon ,'Jaynestown'


Spike's Bitches 22: You've got Angel breath  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Betsy HP - Feb 09, 2005 12:39:11 pm PST #181 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

I know that but doesn't their anti-birth control stance an extrapolation of their general stance on life?

Nope. The encyclical banning birth control explained that sex was wrong unless it was open to the chance of procreation. So, for instance, oral sex to ejaculation is just as bad as using a condom.


Jessica - Feb 09, 2005 12:40:10 pm PST #182 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

So, in completely other news, the reason I am home and able to post at all is that a water main broke in my library, flooding it, and we can't even work on rescuing books and computers because of the asbestos!

Oh no!! Good luck rescuing the books!


Stephanie - Feb 09, 2005 12:41:04 pm PST #183 of 10001
Trust my rage

So, sex is only appropriate when there is a possibility of creating life?

ETA: Okay, I see the difference. This is what I wrote before:

I think their belief is based on the idea that all life is precious. I can't see how that could be immoral.

What I should have said is that their anti-birth control beliefs are based on their view that sex should always lead to the possibility of life. Not my view, but it's hardly immoral.


Rick - Feb 09, 2005 12:43:11 pm PST #184 of 10001

So, sex is only appropriate when there is a possibility of creating life?

Not exactly. If God caused the "not possible" it's ok. So women beyond childbearing years do not sin by having sex.


erikaj - Feb 09, 2005 12:43:54 pm PST #185 of 10001
I'm a fucking amazing catch!--Fiona Gallagher, Shameless(US)

I think that was said before Homicide Oh, yeah, I know they didn't invent it...just the last time I heard it. Munch? Kellerman?


ChiKat - Feb 09, 2005 12:47:13 pm PST #186 of 10001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

It isn't that I dislike it, I'm just kinda neutral on it,

My BF is the same way. Can't wrap my mind around it. Must be more of a male thing (love those sweeping generalities!).


erikaj - Feb 09, 2005 12:48:05 pm PST #187 of 10001
I'm a fucking amazing catch!--Fiona Gallagher, Shameless(US)

Nope. I hate 'em. Always.


libkitty - Feb 09, 2005 12:50:49 pm PST #188 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

Thanks, Jessica. I hope that they let us in tomorrow!


Betsy HP - Feb 09, 2005 12:51:42 pm PST #189 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Shit. I DO have a partial rotator cuff tear.


Lyra Jane - Feb 09, 2005 12:52:52 pm PST #190 of 10001
Up with the sun

I'm dropping out of this conversation because I really don't know enough about Catholicism to respond, and also because I know I see it through a little bit of a fuzzy glow. (I wasn't raised Catholic, but my mom's family is, hardcore, as is my husband's mother. I also worked for a liberal Catholic organization briefly right after college.) It saddens me that people single the Catholic Church out for criticism so much over other Christian denominations, but I recognize some of it is deserved.