Joey Lauren Adams?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH! Nails! Blackboard! AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!

I avoid Mel Gibson, but I make an exception for Chicken Run. Love that movie.

No creative control, and no having to look at his smug face. I'm down with that.

And if we're talking Costner, I can't believe no one has brought up Bull Durham.

Exception that proves the rule? I know Hec keeps saying that Costner gets a "life pass" for Bull Durham, and I'll grant that as long as "life pass" means "I'll allow him to continue living" and not some kind of snark-exemption. I've never quite been clear on that.

Costner used to have talent and charisma to burn, but I think his ego ate it all.

Yup. Always a danger with the rich, good-looking, and talented.

Jim Carrey (his "comedic" roles)

Okay, this I agree with. Though I don't care for that style of comedy anyway, but having Jim Carrey as a head-liner moves it into "no force on this Earth" territory.

Always a danger with the rich, good-looking, and talented.

Sucks to be them, I guess.

What do people see in Bull Durham, exactly? I think I would have enjoyed it much more than I did if I hadn't been led to believe, by everyone on the frickin' planet, that it was the BEST! MOVIE! EVER! I mean, it was okay, for people who like that sort of thing, but I was repeatedly assured that it was the BEST! MOVIE! EVER! even for people who didn't, which I am, and it wasn't.

I think I would have enjoyed it much more than I did if I hadn't been led to believe, by everyone on the frickin' planet, that it was the BEST! MOVIE! EVER!

To be fair, that was before "Dude, where's my car?" was released.

Granted, Bull Durham is not The Apple.

Always a danger with the rich, good-looking, and talented.

Hollywood's full of the above (or, well, two out of the three). I just want to point those who've fallen prey to Costner-like behaviour at George Clooney and ask -- "Are you better looking than he is? Better at your roles than he is at his? Then shut the HELL up, will you?"

How about the classic Hanks/Ryan film, Joe versus the Volcano ? I love that one.

Love that.

There are so many exceptions. Costner is great in Bull Durham. Carrey is very good in Eternal Sunshine.

Loved Mel in Year of Living Dangerously and Mad Max and Road Warrior.

Michael Douglas was excellent in Wonderboys.

Really liked Sandra Bullock in Speed and even Demolition Man.

I've got no problems with Meg Ryan at all. Especially liked her in Addicted to Love.

I liked a lot of Tom Hanks early movies, and his appearances on Letterman. Chris Rock said Hanks could've been the best stand-up of his generation if that's the career path he'd taken. I don't know about that, but I've got to give some credence to that assessment. Hanks was very very funny in his Letterman appearances. Very quick. Incredible timing.

Bull Durham= Beautifully written, great characters throughout, kick-ass female character who doesn not punished for expressing her sexuality, nice mixture of poetry and reality, terrific dialogue, truly brings us into the world of baseball and makes us see what these folk love about it.