Bullshit! S.O.B. has a truly genius performance by Richard Mulligan. Dark and funny. Late William Holden. I can see a preference for V/V, but "far exceeds"? NFW.

Yeah, well, you prefer Old Skool Batman, too. :P

Sometimes, I want another wedding so that I have an excuse to wear Rum Pink.

but after about a year, I could look at a picture and type "overlaid with medallions of alencon lace."

Huh. I always figured that description was handed on by the bridal shop. You mean you actually had to retro-write it?

I'm really surprised that there aren't Orthodox dressmakers in Israel. You'd think there'd be enough observant brides!

Well, there are and there aren't.

I'll try to explain: even among Orthodox, there are lots of different (grr, what's the right word to use here?) streams, paths. There are what we call "haredi" (in the USA I think it's mostly called "hasidic"), which are the most strict. One very important difference between a haredi girl and, say, me, is the connection to the western culture and the, in the lack of a better phrase, "outside world". Part of this lack of connection shows itself in clothes. The men make a point in dressing as similarly to the way people were dressed in Europe in the 18-19th centuries as possible. Women's clothes are of course quite different from the clothes of that time period, but still they are quite different from, say, my clothes (which still pretty much obey the same rules of modesty, but sometimes go way beyond that). So for girls who are that strict and belong to that "stream", there are definitely dressmakers who cater to their needs. But most (not all) girls who don't belong to this way of life, who want something more fashionable or a little less strict, the most common option is to have a 'regular' dress altered.

amych, it's gorgeous! Yay you.

Kat, early congrats, then, in case I won't post with either you or lori closer to that event (and "paper" fits you, too, in a way, what with your books and lori's origami).

Lovely dress amych!

Wasn't there Julie breast in 10 too? Or am I the only one that remembers that film?

I only saw SOB once--maybe I'll have to give it another try, just for Hec. But I can quote entire passages of V/V. It was the first sex farce movie I ever saw (I was 16 when it was released), and I thought it was one of the funniest movies ever.

Yeah, well, you prefer Old Skool Batman, too. :P

Yeah, but I may be full of bullshit on that issue. Besides I didn't cop to preferring it. Just that my head is stuffed with old propaganda.

Hee. This could dissolve into one of the funniest Buffista wars yet.

Blake Edwards Smackdown! C'mon, S.O.B. has a viking funeral. It's way funnier smarter and darker than the overrated The Player as a Hollywood insider satire.

jon b: I really like your VM theory.

I went to a vintage clothing show years ago in Oakland and saw a gorgeous wedding dress in hot pink. I wish I'd bought it, or at least tried it on.

Oh, and to amuse Heather:

"Victor/Victoria RUUUULZZZ!"

t starts pulling Hec's hair

I love V/V. Julie Andrews and Mom's SCB James Garner. Have not seen the other one, but am not surprised. When I have seen JA on TV being her, she is much funnier and dirtier than most of her work.